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fehlende Karten
by Arthur Bonino 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

hallo zämä im Potlatch 2 fehlen viele hinterlegte Karten-Zonen. Für Einsteiger wäre es sehr praktisch, wenn für die ganze Schweiz eine Hintergrund-Karte vorhanden wäre. Wer-wie-was-wo? ;-) Gruss, Arthur

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Boundaries import
by Beni Buess 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

Hi Do we want to use one and the same user for the cleanup/creation of admin_level 4 and 6 as discussed this evening? thomas, could you then share the login credentials somehow (maybe not on this public list). beni

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Bicycle route tagging
by Matthias Julius 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hi all, The other day I noticed the way cycle routes are tagged in Switzerland. There, the usage of the name tag differs from the general usage of name tags within OSM. IMHO, we should not deviate from established tagging practices without a really good reason. Therefore, I took the liberty to modify http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Switzerland/CycleNetwork#Recommended_… and to change the name tag to be in line with the way it is used elsewhere in OSM and also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycle_routes#Relations I also noticed that some relations have quite elaborate and long names. To reduce these to be just the names I have added the description and description:xx tags. There, the start and end points and possibly other information for the data user can be noted. I know there are arguments for the tagging the way it is now. The name tag gets displayed in JOSM and it is not rendered on any map anyway. But, we don't want to tag for editors and the map renderings might change and who knows who is rendering maps with and what styles anyway. I propose to change the tagging according to the current version of the wiki page. Unless there are strong objections I will start with that in a week or so. Happy mapping, Matthias

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Re: [talk-ch] Association 'Diskussion
by Arthur Bonino 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hoi zämä Verbesserungswürdig finde ich: * Aufnahme neuer Mitglieder: 'nur über den Vorstand Varianten: - Neue Mitglieder werden nach dem unterschreiben der Vereinsstatuten automatisch aufgenommen. Der Vorstand oder 10% der Mitglieder können aber bei Einwänden beantragen, dass die Mitglieder-Aufnahme über die Mitglieder-Versammlung beantragt werden muss .... * Ausschluss: 'Grundlos finde ich sehr schwach 'vereins-widriges Verhalten' (Gegen-Interessen) ...? Es gäbe noch die übliche Formulierungen Die Internet-Suche nach "Vereinsstatuten Vorlage" gibt noch weitere Punkte. Gruss, Arthur

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Boundaries import
by Frédéric Benninger 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

Bonjour, Suite à l'importation, pour le canton de Neuchatel, je remarque un fort décalage des frontières par rapport au WMS du canton [1] Par exemple, la frontière entre la Suisse et le France (frontière naturel, le Doubs) est environs 140m trop au Nord et 70m trop à l'Est. Je remarque également ce décalage au niveau des communes. Salutations Benni_75 [1] wms:http://sitn.ne.ch/ogc-sitn-open/wms?FORMAT=image/jpeg&LAYERS=communes&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&

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RE : Re: OpenLayers build optimisation
by Frédéric Benninger 09 Jul '11

09 Jul '11

Bonjour, Merci Stéphane pour astuce, je vais réaliser cette optimisation dès que possible. Salutations Frédéric Stéphane Brunner <courriel(a)stephane-brunner.ch> a écrit : >Hello, > >I made a little mistake, >to have a minimal OSM map we need a builf file like it: >[first] > >[last] > >[include] >OpenLayers/Map.js >OpenLayers/Control/ArgParser.js >OpenLayers/Control/Attribution.js >OpenLayers/Control/Navigation.js >OpenLayers/Control/PanZoom.js >OpenLayers/Layer/XYZ.js > >[exclude] > >Than we have a file less than 160ko > >CU >Stéphane > > >On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Stéphane Brunner ><courriel(a)stephane-brunner.ch> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In the last French meeting I say that I say that I will seek about >> OpenLayers optimization (Download size ans parse time, but not >> execution speed) : >> >> Than to do that the goal is to have one js file with only what we >> need, it mean that we include only OpenLayers files that we need, we >> remove comments and unneeded spaces. >> >> To do that first we need the Openlayers sources: >> Version 2.10: >> svn export http://svn.openlayers.org/branches/openlayers/2.10/ openlayers >> Version 2.11 RC: >> svn checkout http://svn.openlayers.org/branches/openlayers/2.11/ openlayers >> Version trunk: >> svn checkout http://svn.openlayers.org/trunk/openlayers/ openlayers >> >> Go to the build directory: >> cd openlayers/build >> Create own profile: >> cp lite.cfg my.cfg >> edit my.cfg to replace 'OpenLayers/Layer/XYZ.js' by yours needed files >> (one per line), the dependencies will be check. >> >> Than build it: >> python build.py -c jsmin my.cfg OpenLayers-my.js >> >> The result is that to display an OSM layer we have a file size of only >> 121ko in place of about 1Mo for a full version of OpenLayers. >> >> CU and happy development ;-) >> Stéphane Brunner >> >> >> -- >> Envoyé depuis mon lapin >> -- >> Catalogue de cartes OpenStreetMap - http://map.stephane-brunner.ch >> Un peu d'espace qui vous suis partout - >> https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTk2OTU2Mjk >> -- >> > > > >-- >Envoyé depuis mon lapin >-- >Catalogue de cartes OpenStreetMap - http://map.stephane-brunner.ch >Un peu d'espace qui vous suis partout - >https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTk2OTU2Mjk >-- >_______________________________________________ >talk-ch mailing list >talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch

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OpenLayers build optimisation
by Stéphane Brunner 09 Jul '11

09 Jul '11

Hello, In the last French meeting I say that I say that I will seek about OpenLayers optimization (Download size ans parse time, but not execution speed) : Than to do that the goal is to have one js file with only what we need, it mean that we include only OpenLayers files that we need, we remove comments and unneeded spaces. To do that first we need the Openlayers sources: Version 2.10: svn export http://svn.openlayers.org/branches/openlayers/2.10/ openlayers Version 2.11 RC: svn checkout http://svn.openlayers.org/branches/openlayers/2.11/ openlayers Version trunk: svn checkout http://svn.openlayers.org/trunk/openlayers/ openlayers Go to the build directory: cd openlayers/build Create own profile: cp lite.cfg my.cfg edit my.cfg to replace 'OpenLayers/Layer/XYZ.js' by yours needed files (one per line), the dependencies will be check. Than build it: python build.py -c jsmin my.cfg OpenLayers-my.js The result is that to display an OSM layer we have a file size of only 121ko in place of about 1Mo for a full version of OpenLayers. CU and happy development ;-) Stéphane Brunner -- Envoyé depuis mon lapin -- Catalogue de cartes OpenStreetMap - http://map.stephane-brunner.ch Un peu d'espace qui vous suis partout - https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTk2OTU2Mjk --

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Re: [talk-ch] Association ....
by Simon Poole 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Sarah The French template is here: http://www.kmu.admin.ch/themen/00614/00656/00690/index.html?lang=fr We will have to decide at one point in time on which language version is the official one. Simon Am 05.07.2011 08:23, schrieb Sarah Hoffmann: > Simon, > > do you have an English translation (or French, if that is what you > can get from the KMU portal)? Resp. should somebody else take care of > that? German isn't really well understood further West. And I think it > is really important that we do that together. > > Otherwise, looks good to me. > > Sarah > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:52:59PM +0200, Simon Poole wrote: >> >> Am 02.07.2011 20:06, schrieb Andreas Bürki: >>> Am 02.07.2011 18:28, schrieb Simon Poole: >>>> The wikimedia by-laws are definitely too complicated >>> That's your personal opinion. I don't think so. - General note: The more >>> precise articles of association are, the less discussion and >>> misunderstanding occur. >>> >> The wikimedia bylaws introduce a number of concepts not required by law, >> and restate a lot of things that are -already- completely satisfactory >> defined in law. >> >> If I could wager a bet, I would put my money on that the articles were >> either wrote by a lawyer with anglo-saxon background or to satisfy one. >> >>>> (there are far better examples for example /ch/open >>> Disagree as well on that one. IMHO they should mention registered office >>> and business year, just as simple examples. >> They do state the business year and it is completely legal not to state >> a place of business. If it has no undesirable consequences (I can't >> think of any at the current time) it avoids having to have a general >> assembly and change the bylaws every time the kind soul who does the >> administration moves. >> >> Anyway my proposal is here >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Bylaws_Swiss_OSM_Association_-_Ger… >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ch mailing list >> talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >> http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > _______________________________________________ > talk-ch mailing list > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch

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Re: [talk-ch] Association ....
by Roman Fischer 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

The statute looks good to me. -Roman > Quoting Simon Poole <simon(a)poole.ch>: > >> >> >> Am 02.07.2011 20:06, schrieb Andreas Bürki: >>> >>> Am 02.07.2011 18:28, schrieb Simon Poole: >>>> The wikimedia by-laws are definitely too complicated >>> >>> That's your personal opinion. I don't think so. - General note: The more >>> precise articles of association are, the less discussion and >>> misunderstanding occur. >>> >> The wikimedia bylaws introduce a number of concepts not required by >> law, and restate a lot of things that are -already- completely >> satisfactory defined in law. >> >> If I could wager a bet, I would put my money on that the articles >> were either wrote by a lawyer with anglo-saxon background or to >> satisfy one. >> >>>> (there are far better examples for example /ch/open >>> >>> Disagree as well on that one. IMHO they should mention registered office >>> and business year, just as simple examples. >> They do state the business year and it is completely legal not to >> state a place of business. If it has no undesirable consequences (I >> can't think of any at the current time) it avoids having to have a >> general assembly and change the bylaws every time the kind soul who >> does the administration moves. >> >> Anyway my proposal is here >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Bylaws_Swiss_OSM_Association_-_Ger… >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ch mailing list >> talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >> http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch

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Rencontre cartographe amateur
by Frédéric Benninger 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Bonjour, Vus les résultas du doodle: http://doodle.com/ggadr9yagri7qhuc Je propose de retenir la date du 2 juillet. Par contre seulement pour une demi journée étant donné le nombre de participant. Ça serait cool si Stéphane B. Pouvait nous faire une présentation de ses travaux. Salutations Frédéric

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