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Proposal "ISCED_2011_Education_Programme": Voting ends soon.
by Toggenburger Lukas 21 Apr '22

21 Apr '22

--> English text below <-- Hallo zusammen Nochmals eine freundliche Erinnerung. (Die letzte, versprochen!) Unter https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED_2011_Education_… befindet sich ein von mir verfasstes Proposal zur Abstimmung, welches das internationale ISCED System zur Klassifizierung von Schulsystemen abbildet. Ein Ersatz für das bisherige "isced:level=*" ist nötig geworden, da unklar ist, auf welche Version von ISCED es sich bezieht. Viele der bestehenden Taggings sind dadurch wertlos geworden und dieser Key lässt sich nicht mehr sinnvoll verwenden. Leider erreicht das Proposal derzeit nicht die nötige 75%-Mehrheit und die Abstimmung läuft nur noch diese Woche. Ich würde mich freuen, wenn ihr euch die Zeit nehmen könntet, das Proposal zu prüfen und vielleicht das Resultat noch umzukehren... Grüsse Lukas Dear list This is a friendly reminder. (The last one, promised!) At https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED_2011_Education_… there is a proposal ready for voting that I have written, which covers the international ISCED system for classifying school systems. A replacement for the previous "isced:level=*" has become necessary, as it is unclear to which version of ISCED it refers to. Many of the existing taggings have become worthless as a result and this key can no longer be used in a meaningful way. Unfortunately, the proposal currently does not reach the necessary 75% majority and the vote is only running until the end of this week. I would be happy if you could take the time to check the proposal and maybe reverse the result... Best regards Lukas

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Mapbox mapping activity [Ticket#2022041410000184]
by Andy Townsend 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hello, Andy Townsend from OSM's Data Working Group here. We were cc:ed on http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/pipermail/talk-ch/2022-April/011470.html and I've picked it up because I've been involved with a couple of related tickets elsewhere. Sorry about the out-of thread message; I've just joined this list to reply. Mapbox have been creating these "projects" country by country at https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues and what's happened in each country has been broadly similar: * Mapbox say that they will "resolve some issues" in that country, but don't say what they will fix or how they detected them. * The community in that country asks questions and gets only vague handwavy answers (e.g. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2022-April/003016.html ). * The DWG then gets complaints about poor editing in that country and has to try and deal with the mappers concerned (see e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/del_account/blocks ). * The local community and/or the DWG then has to go through a "bucket and shovel" exercise to tidy up. It makes no sense for Mapbox to take this approach in every country - it just creates extra work for everyone. A much better approach would be what (eventually, after much badgering by the local community) happened in the UK. At https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/387#issuecomment-1015316614 Mapbox published their list of "detected problems". What then happened in the UK was that the local communityfixed a large number of the issues (where there were genuine issues), and Mapbox's "mappers" didn't need to do anything - something of a win/win for everyone. I suspect that the Swiss OSM community is even better qualified than the UK one for that approach to work here too. Looking outside of Switzerland, I'm now worried about where there hasn't been feedback on issues at https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/ , but that's offitopic for this list. Best Regards, Andy (from the DWG)

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Overpass Query - Union mit csv zickt
by Olivier Chatelain 16 Apr '22

16 Apr '22

Guten Tag zusammen, Könnte mir evtl. jemand weiterhelfen? Die untenstehende Abfrage liefert mir nur die "highways" zurück - Parks und Plätze leider nicht. Mir ist nicht klar, was falsch sein soll: die Klammern als Union sollten doch alle drei Kategorien liefern. Grüsse, Oli ===== [out:csv("name","name:etymology:wikidata",::timestamp,::user;false; ",")]; area[name="Basel-Stadt"]; ( nwr["highway"](area); nwr["leisure"="park"](area); nwr["place"="square"](area); ); out meta;

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Proposal "ISCED_2011_Education_Programme" is ready for voting
by Toggenburger Lukas 16 Apr '22

16 Apr '22

--> English text below <-- Hallo zusammen Nach längerer Vorbereitung ist es nun soweit: Mein Proposal "ISCED_2011_Education_Programme" zur Klassifizierung von Schulen ist bereit zur Abstimmung: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED_2011_Education_… Ich würde mich freuen, wenn ihr das anschauen und bei Gefallen JA stimmen würdet. Damit das Proposal als angenommen gilt, braucht es mind. 8 Stimmen mit einem JA-Anteil von mind. 75%. Abzustimmen ist einfach: Es genügt die entsprechende Zeile ins Wiki einzutragen. Siehe https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED_2011_Education_… Grüsse Lukas Dear list After much preparation, my proposal "ISCED_2011_Education_Programme" for classification of schools is finally ready to be voted on: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED_2011_Education_… Please have a look and vote YES, if you like it. For the proposal being accepted, it needs at least 8 votes with a YES ratio of at least 75%. Voting is easy: Just put the corresponding line into the wiki, as described at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED_2011_Education_… Best regards Lukas

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Re: [talk-ch] talk-ch Digest, Vol 2195, Issue 2
by Sergey Beliamei 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

Hello, Andy! Thanks for your feedback. We will discuss it within the company and give you an answer soon. Best regards, Member of Mapbox team, Sergey On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 4:39 PM <talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch> wrote: > Send talk-ch mailing list submissions to > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ch-owner(a)openstreetmap.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk-ch digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: talk-ch Digest, Vol 2195, Issue 1 (Sergey Beliamei) > 2. Mapbox mapping activity [Ticket#2022041410000184] (Andy Townsend) > 3. Re: Mapbox mapping activity [Ticket#2022041410000184] > (Andy Townsend) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:38:22 +0300 > From: Sergey Beliamei <siarhei.beliamei(a)mapbox.com> > To: talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > Subject: Re: [talk-ch] talk-ch Digest, Vol 2195, Issue 1 > Message-ID: > <CADW0GJ3h= > yfA_hEjYam6SKxkL4ri0Le_x0izuew2xL1dOk+7og(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi! > On our wiki page we have a link on the pages with more detailed info about > project, which contains categories and examples, and also page about how we > deal with feedback. During our work we use all available sources from OSM, > so if there would be some local sources, we would surely use it. As soon as > we process issues, we'll update out ticket with json files, which will > contain exact items we're going to review. We will do if before the start > of review. > > Best regards, > Member of Mapbox team, > Sergey > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 1:00 PM <talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch> wrote: > > > Send talk-ch mailing list submissions to > > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > talk-ch-owner(a)openstreetmap.ch > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of talk-ch digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Mapbox mapping activity (Sergey Beliamei) > > 2. Re: Mapbox mapping activity (Simon Poole) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:04:45 +0300 > > From: Sergey Beliamei <siarhei.beliamei(a)mapbox.com> > > To: talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > Subject: [talk-ch] Mapbox mapping activity > > Message-ID: > > < > > CADW0GJ1tAbmwTCRX7kuFD+T6gA68rE+Mh6E+XCRLhiQy_dtSXg(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hello from the Mapbox Team! > > In April 2022 our team is going to start a mapping project in > Switzerland. > > As part of on-going work to improve the quality of OpenStreetMap data, > our > > team is planning to review a subset of the detections to better > understand > > the type of issues, and also fix any valid data issues directly in the > OSM. > > Where concentrating on road mistakes to improve map condition. In > > Switzerland > > we plan to upload data once a week to see and fix the latest mistakes in > > mapping after reviewing the 1st iteration. > > We would really appreciate your feedback, any questions you have about > this > > project, as well as local insights that you think will help us better > > understand the data. > > There's a link to our Github ticket > > <https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/407> to the related issue and > a > > link to our page in OSM Wiki > > < > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/resolve_li… > > >. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Member of Mapbox team, > > Sergey > >

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Re: [talk-ch] talk-ch Digest, Vol 2195, Issue 1
by Sergey Beliamei 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

Hi! On our wiki page we have a link on the pages with more detailed info about project, which contains categories and examples, and also page about how we deal with feedback. During our work we use all available sources from OSM, so if there would be some local sources, we would surely use it. As soon as we process issues, we'll update out ticket with json files, which will contain exact items we're going to review. We will do if before the start of review. Best regards, Member of Mapbox team, Sergey On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 1:00 PM <talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch> wrote: > Send talk-ch mailing list submissions to > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ch-owner(a)openstreetmap.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk-ch digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mapbox mapping activity (Sergey Beliamei) > 2. Re: Mapbox mapping activity (Simon Poole) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:04:45 +0300 > From: Sergey Beliamei <siarhei.beliamei(a)mapbox.com> > To: talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > Subject: [talk-ch] Mapbox mapping activity > Message-ID: > < > CADW0GJ1tAbmwTCRX7kuFD+T6gA68rE+Mh6E+XCRLhiQy_dtSXg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello from the Mapbox Team! > In April 2022 our team is going to start a mapping project in Switzerland. > As part of on-going work to improve the quality of OpenStreetMap data, our > team is planning to review a subset of the detections to better understand > the type of issues, and also fix any valid data issues directly in the OSM. > Where concentrating on road mistakes to improve map condition. In > Switzerland > we plan to upload data once a week to see and fix the latest mistakes in > mapping after reviewing the 1st iteration. > We would really appreciate your feedback, any questions you have about this > project, as well as local insights that you think will help us better > understand the data. > There's a link to our Github ticket > <https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/407> to the related issue and a > link to our page in OSM Wiki > < > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/resolve_li… > >. > > > Best regards, > Member of Mapbox team, > Sergey >

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Mapbox mapping activity
by Sergey Beliamei 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

Hello from the Mapbox Team! In April 2022 our team is going to start a mapping project in Switzerland. As part of on-going work to improve the quality of OpenStreetMap data, our team is planning to review a subset of the detections to better understand the type of issues, and also fix any valid data issues directly in the OSM. Where concentrating on road mistakes to improve map condition. In Switzerland we plan to upload data once a week to see and fix the latest mistakes in mapping after reviewing the 1st iteration. We would really appreciate your feedback, any questions you have about this project, as well as local insights that you think will help us better understand the data. There's a link to our Github ticket <https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/407> to the related issue and a link to our page in OSM Wiki < https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities/resolve_li… >. Best regards, Member of Mapbox team, Sergey

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FOSSGIS-OSM-Communitytreffen im Linuxhotel vom 01.-03.07.2022
by Oliver Rudzick 11 Apr '22

11 Apr '22

Diese Mail geht an mehrere Listen, Mehrfachempfang bitten wir zu entschuldigen. Liebe OSM-Aktive, es ist wieder soweit, am Wochenende vom 01.-03. Juli 2022 können wir das Linuxhotel in Essen für ein OSM-FOSSGIS-Communitytreffen nutzen: https://www.fossgis.de/wiki/FOSSGIS_OSM_Communitytreffen_2022_Nummer_17 Das Linuxhotel mit seiner guten technischen Ausstattung und dem parkähnlichen Grundstück mit Panoramablick auf die Ruhr bietet einen idealen Rahmen für kreatives Arbeiten und produktiven Austausch in lockerer, ungezwungener Atmosphäre. Das Treffen kann vielfältig genutzt werden. Communities und Interessierte aus OpenStreetMap-Projekten sowie freien GIS- und Geodaten-Projekten können das Wochenende nutzen, um die Arbeit voranzubringen. FOSSGIS Aktive können das Wochenende als Arbeitswochenende für Vereinsaufgaben nutzen, zur Vorbereitung von Veranstaltungen (FOSSGIS-Konferenz 2023), IT, Öffentlichkeitsarbeit, Messen usw. Es stehen bis zu 26 Hotelbetten in 16 Zimmern für uns bereit. Auf dem Gelände kann auch gezeltet werden. Selbstverständlich sind auch Tagesgäste willkommen. Bitte tragt Euch und, falls vorhanden, Euer Projekt oder Eure Idee, die Ihr umsetzen wollt, im Wiki ein: https://www.fossgis.de/wiki/FOSSGIS_OSM_Communitytreffen_2022_Nummer_17#Tei… Übernachtungs- und Campinggäste tragen sich bitte spätestens bis zum Morgen des 20.06.2022 ein. Weitere Ideen und Anregungen zur Ausgestaltung sind gerne gesehen und werden bestimmt aufgegriffen. Wir freuen uns auf ein FOSSGIS-OSM-Communitytreffen mit Euch im Linuxhotel! Viele Grüße Katja & Oliver

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Automatischer Edit der refs an SchweizMobil MTB-Routen
by Sarah Hoffmann 10 Apr '22

10 Apr '22

Hi, beim Versuch, den MTB-Routen auf https://mtb.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=10.0/46.9882/8.0454 die passende Schildfarbe zu geben, ist mir aufgefallen, dass viele der Routen immernoch ein ref-Tag der Form '<nummer>MTB' haben. Das ist, soweit ich das sehen kann, ein Überbleibsel aus Zeiten, wo man auch MTB-Routen noch mit route=bicycle getaggt hat. Inzwischen gibt es ja das eigene route=mtb, weswegen der künstliche Anhängsel im ref-Tag nicht mehr nötig ist. Wenn es keine Einwände gibt, würde ich die Routen in der ganzen Schweiz mal vereinheitlichen mit ref=<nummer>. Ausserdem würde ich wo nötig noch den operator ergänzen/korrigieren wollen. Da würde ich dem gängigen Schema folgen mit: operator=Mountainbikeland Schweiz Allerdings könnte man darüber diskutieren, ob für operator "SchweizMobil" nicht eigentlich korrekter ist. "*land Schweiz" sind ja eigentlich die Untermarken. Gruss Sarah

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Mapathon/Hackathon Rapperswil & virtuell, Fr. 29. April 2022 14:00-19:00+
by Stefan Keller 07 Apr '22

07 Apr '22

Liebe Mapper:innen Nun ist es endlich wieder soweit: Es gibt einen Mapathon/Hackathon in Rapperswil und virtuell am Fr. 29. April 2022 14:00-19:00 (open end). Das Motto ist «Nachaltige Angebote». Gleichzeitig mit dem Mapathon gibt es auch einen Mini-Hackathon. Und zusätzlich läuft ab sofort eine Aktion "Projekt des Monats (PotM) April 2022", dessen Sieger am Mapathon geehrt werden. Der Event ist für Erfahrene, Einsteiger und Interessierte gleichermassen geeignet. Für den Mapathon sind keine Vorkenntnisse notwendig - ausser Computer bedienen können. Beim Hackathon genügen einfache Kenntnisse von JavaScript. Beim Hackathon wird gezeigt, wie man eigene Karten mit POIs erstellen kann. Der Mapathon/Hackathon kann ab 14:00 auch virtuell besucht werden. Und man kann auch später dazustossen. Ask-us-Anything! Ab 18:30 Uhr gibt es Pizza & Drinks gesponsert von der Nachhaltigkeitswoche Rapperswil. Der Event ist kostenlos. Wir sprechen deutsch aber auch Englisch. Alle Infos: https://giswiki.hsr.ch/Mapathon Anmeldung: Einfaches Mail an stefan.keller(a)ost.ch Virtuelle Teilnahme mit BigBlueButton: https://bbb.ch-open.ch/b/ste-633-awy (im Browser, no-install/no-login)

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