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Wiki-page for Remapping Switzerland?
by Fred Jelk 20 Jul '12

20 Jul '12

Hello, what do you think, would it be a good idea to create a wiki-page for remapping Switzerland? There are some villages where a lot of streets, landuses and nodes are loss cause of the licence-changing. I think, it would be a good idea, to coordinate the remapping from Switzerland over the wiki, as poland it does: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Poland_remapping p.e. Burgdorf have lost a lot of Streets: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php ... w_tmpign=1 <http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=15&lat=47.0556&lon=7.62669&lay…> (some streets I had remappt some minutes ago, but I don't know all from there, so I can't tagging the restrictions, names, maxspeeds... This is the reason, I ask for a wiki-page... What do you think? I've asked this also in the forum, but I didn't get an answer: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17445 , so I thinked, I would ask it also here in the ML. Greets Fred

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Re: [talk-ch] Problèmes secteur Ecublens (VD)
by tnk＠gmx.net 19 Jul '12

19 Jul '12

Le 19 juillet 2012 08:55, Stéphane Dewarrat <s.dewarrat(a)cvra.ch> a écrit : >> Dans le secteur suivant >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.5329146385193&lon=6.56392335891724&zoo… >> Il y a passablement de données qui ont été maltraitées... On 19.07.2012 10:20, Marc Mongenet wrote: > Il y a aussi des routes qui disparaissent dans les environs de Genève. > Sauf erreur, ce sont les données non re-licencées qui sont supprimées > par http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMF%20Redaction%20Account I'm following the changes in the area around Lausanne and found these change sets from the OSMF Redaction Account: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12251079 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12251259 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12251473 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12251732 Three of them include Ecublens, but since Ecublens is at the limit of the zone I follow, there might be yet other change sets affecting it. But even having these change sets, it's difficult to know the information (relation, way, node or tag) that was deleted (or changed), since it's hidden in the history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/redactions/1 Following the members of a changed route relation with new gaps in the route, I came across a copped up street with gaps and missing tags. And these were not the kind of errors that would show up on OSMI, Keepright, or OsmOse. Hadn't I known the route (and the place) before, there wouldn't have been anything suspicious about it. So short of comparing your local knowledge and the allowed data sources with every single way and node (present or missing), I guess the only way to find out what was deleted would be to go back and look up the affected relations, ways, and nodes in an old planet file just before the redaction process took place. Of course not to restore them, that would be against the rules, but just to know what the heck needs to be repaired or redone. I'm not convinced of the necessity or benefits of this license change to ODbL, but at the time I joined OSM, there wasn't any choice for me anyway. Thorsten (Shernott)

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Problèmes secteur Ecublens (VD)
by Stéphane Dewarrat 19 Jul '12

19 Jul '12

Bonjour à toutes et tous, Dans le secteur suivant http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.5329146385193&lon=6.56392335891724&zoo… Il y a passablement de données qui ont été maltraitées... Si je prends le cas d'un chemin déplacé, voici ces donnes de modification : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37713527/history Que faire globalement pour corriger, sans chercher une à une les modifs erronées? Meilleures salutations et bel été! Stéphane

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Fwd: [OSM-talk] Licence redaction ready to begin
by Simon Poole 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

The readaction bot will start running on Wednesday (note the small Freudian slip by Richard). -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [OSM-talk] Licence redaction ready to begin Datum: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:46:43 +0100 Von: Richard Fairhurst <richard(a)systemeD.net> An: talk(a)openstreetmap.org, dev(a)openstreetmap.org, announce(a)openstreetmap.org Hello all, I'm pleased to announce that the licence change bot is ready to get underway. Starting this week, we will be 'redacting' the contributions (less than 1%) from the live database that are not compatible with the new Contributor Terms and Open Database Licence (ODbL) - in other words, they will no longer be accessible. We are expecting to begin on _Wednesday_ (9th July) assuming a couple of final setup details are completed by then. The bot will run in the following order: 1. Ireland 2. UK 3. Western Europe 4. North America 5. Australia 6. rest of the world Once it is complete, we will be ready to distribute data under the ODbL and we'll advise of that with a separate announcement. The final pre-redaction dataset available under CC-BY-SA has now been generated at http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-120704.osm.bz2 . Where data has been redacted, any attempt to access it from the API or the site's 'browse' pages will return a response to that effect. Test runs have shown that the bot is functioning as we want it to, but we will of course be monitoring its progress. We are currently expecting it to take in the order of one month to complete; given the many variables I'm afraid we can't give a more precise steer yet, but we'll aim to keep everyone updated as it runs (via the announce@ and talk@ lists). There will be _no_ API outage and no other interruption to editing. When the bot is running in your area, please do save your edits frequently to minimise the likelihood of conflict. (Separate messages are going to talk-ie@ and talk-gb@ as the first two areas to be affected. Please do forward and translate this for your local mailing lists.) As you know we were expecting this to start just after 1st April and the complexity of the task incurred the delay. Thank you all very much for your patience in waiting for it to get underway. Thank you especially to those who have contributed to the code, whether by patches, suggestions or just helping to firm up the workings. Richard for the OSMF board _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk(a)openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de(a)openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

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OSM-France on TV
by Stéphane Henriod 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

FYI, @16min 25 http://www.canalplus.fr/c-infos-documentaires/pid2800-c-le-jt-de-canal.html Stéphane -- "Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux" -- Albert Einstein "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- Nicolas Bouvier Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info

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WIKI separate page for MTB routes
by Simon Poole 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

I've split off the MTB route page from the "normal" cycling route page in the wiki. Mainly because the normal cycling page is simply getting too long and the potential addition of a further 136 local MTB routes would just make it explode. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/CycleNetwork http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/MountainBikeNetwork I believe I've updated most of the relevant links. Simon

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Wrongly tagged forest tracks
by Simon Poole 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Thomas (t-i) has a bicycle access map that a number of you may have already seen http://osm.t-i.ch/bicycle/map/ If you have a look at the map you will notice large areas of red: http://osm.t-i.ch/bicycle/map/?zoom=12&lat=47.49081&lon=8.06874&layers=B000… Complete forests that are forbidden for bicycles. The reason for this is widespread incorrect use of access=forestry or access=agricultural on these ways. This restricts ANY usage of the way in question to forestry and agricultural use, so even by foot entrance is not allowed. What people are mostly tagging is the sign "Motorfahrzeuge verboten" in combination with "Waldstrasse" or "Land- und Forstwirtschaftliche Verkehr gestattet" see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/Map_Features#Other_common_Si… (note on the side: sign 2.01 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtafel_der_Verkehrszeichen_in_der_Schweiz should be tagged verhicle=....... ). In principle it is naturally possible to tag access=forestry and then foot=yes, bicycle=yes, horse=yes and so on, but that is silly and error prone (and wouldn't cover usage for which OSM currently doesn't have a tag), the only sensible way to tag this restriction (which is universal by law in all of Switzerland) is motor_vehicle=forestry. Correct tagging of this situation is important if we want to provide correct bicycle and walking routing, don't forget that there are (forest) areas in which access is really not allowed, these can only be correctly determined if we don't have to ignore wrongly tagged objects. I've fixed some of this tagging in my immediate vicinity, and a lot of the access=forestry stuff, however there are roughly 3000 ways tagged with access=agricultural left of which a lot are in forests, where we can suspect the same mistagging has happened. The preferred way of handling this is for local mappers to correct the tagging, I would be prepared to change this in a conservative fashion in a massedit, however that will only so a 90% job and leave a lot of stuff that still will have to be individually corrected. Simon

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OSM-Stammtisch Zürich am 11. Juli
by Thomas Ineichen 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hallo zusammen, am Mittwoch findet der nächste Stammtisch statt: Datum: Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 Zeit: ab 18:30 Uhr Ort: Je nach Wetter - auf der Polyterrasse oder drinnen zwischen bQm und ETH-Mensa Weitere Infos und (unverbindliche) Anmeldung: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Zürich/OSM-Treffen Gruss, Thomas

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Re: [talk-ch] talk-ch Digest, Vol 506, Issue 1
by Andreas Bürki 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

Hab's ausprobiert auf Potlach2. Works. Danke :-) Am 01.07.2012 12:00, schrieb talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch: > Send talk-ch mailing list submissions to > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ch-owner(a)openstreetmap.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk-ch digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: OGD-Portal Stadt Z?rich (Simon Poole) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:09:34 +0200 > From: Simon Poole <simon(a)poole.ch> > To: Openstreetmap Schweiz/Suisse/Svizzera/Svizra > <talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch> > Subject: Re: [talk-ch] OGD-Portal Stadt Z?rich > Message-ID: <4FEF16AE.1070202(a)poole.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Am 29.06.2012 12:06, schrieb Simon Poole: >> Der Versatz ist bereits gemeldet, wir haben auch direkten Kontakt mit >> den Leuten dort. Bez?glich Luftbilder haben wir gestern ja schon was >> bekannt gegeben (siehe sosm.ch) und es ist mehr am tun. >> > ?brigens unser MapProxy Server (siehe > http://sosm.ch/test-mapproxy-dienst/) tut selber umprojizieren, sprich > da hat mein kein Versatz (nicht wirklich relevant f?r JOSM Nutzer aber > f?r alle anderen). > > Simon >

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OGD-Portal Stadt Zürich
by Marc Schneider 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

Aus der aktuelle Medienmitteilung der Stadt Zürich (http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/fd/de/index/das_departement/medien/medienmittei…): "In einem ersten Schritt werden am 28. Juni Daten aus den Bereichen Soziodemografie und Bauen freigegeben, z.B. Gebäude- und Wohnungsstatistik, dazu zahlreiche Geoinformationen wie die Basiskarte Stadtplan, ein Auszug aus der Point of Interest-Datenbank und das Strassennamenverzeichnis." Ich bin gespannt, was alles an Daten kommt und was sich für OSM nutzen lässt! Grüsse Marc.

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