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Fwd: [libo-conference-priv] Hotels und B&B in Bern auf OSM - Fwd: Re: hotels and accomodations
by Andreas Bürki 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

Hi all Sieht cool aus (Berner Hotels und B&B's): http://u.osmfr.org/m/6890/ Und hoffe natürlich - ich weiss, wenn ein SysAdmin mal Zeit hat - uMap in nicht allzu ferner Zukunft auch auf osm.ch zu finden. :-) Cheeeers, h. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: [libo-conference-priv] Hotels und B&B in Bern auf OSM - Fwd: Re: hotels and accomodations Datum: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:55:02 +0200 Von: Andreas Bürki <abuerki(a)anidor.com> An: info(a)bern.com Kopie (CC): libo-conference-priv(a)lists.documentfoundation.org Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren Für die Vorbereitung der LibreOffice Conference 2014 an der Universität Bern[1], hat Ronny Standtke eine frei verfügbare Karte der Hotels und B&B's in Bern gemacht. Die Karte ist interaktiv und verlinkt mit den Webseiten der Übernachtungsmöglichkeiten. http://u.osmfr.org/m/6890/ Falls sie das möchten, dürfen Sie die Karte gemäss den OSM Lizenzbedingungen auf Ihrer Webseite frei verwenden. Falls Sie Fragen haben, nur zu. :-) Herzliche Grüsse Andreas Bürki Links: [1] http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2014/02/13/libreoffice-conference-2014-i… [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [libo-conference-priv] hotels and accomodations Datum: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:49:15 +0200 Von: Ronny Standtke <ronny.standtke(a)fhnw.ch> An: <libo-conference-priv(a)lists.documentfoundation.org> Hi all Andreas pointed me to uMap: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr This site is so cool that I almost couldn't believe my eyes! :-) Instead of hacking around with JavaScript and HTML you just need some clicks and the map overlays are done. The best thing is that it is based on OpenStreetMap and free software. So here comes the third version of our accommodation map: http://u.osmfr.org/m/6890/ I also added some more B&B places I found via websearch. > Great, thanks a lot! May be you want to add it to the map collection > on the conference page on the wiki: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/LibreOffice_Annual_Conferen… Done. Cheers Ronny -- erreichbar von Mo-Fr, Büro B.105 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fachhochschule Nordwestschweiz Pädagogische Hochschule Institut Weiterbildung und Beratung Dr. Ronny Standtke Dozent für Medienpädagogik Obere Sternengasse 7 4502 Solothurn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ T +41 32 628 67 08 M +41 79 786 81 82 F +41 32 627 28 64 ronny.standtke(a)fhnw.ch <mailto:ronny.standtke@fhnw.ch> http://www.imedias.ch

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Kein Stammtisch am 11. April in Zuerich
by Patrick Staehlin 06 Apr '14

06 Apr '14

Salut! Da wir heute schon in und um Burgdorf mappen werden, haben wir uns entschlossen den Zuercher Stammtisch in einer Woche abzusagen. Gruss Packi

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Re: [talk-ch] [Talk-de] ReMAPTCHA Demo BETA 0.2 online!
by Stefan Keller 05 Apr '14

05 Apr '14

Hallo Danke für euren Input! Wir haben das ReMAPTCHA [1] leicht aktualisiert. Wir experimentieren nun mit einer zweistufigen Antwort: Zuerst kommt die Frage (sinngemäss): Gibt es eine Verbindung? Yes/No/Undecidable. Dann kommt ein einziges "Control Word" das es zu entziffern gilt. -S. P.S. Viel Spass bei der Schweizer Mapping Party heute ab 13:30 Uhr an der Wynigenstrasse 13 in Burgdorf! http://sosm.ch/mapping-party-burgdorf-april-5th-1330/ [1] http://remaptcha.herokuapp.com/ Am 29. März 2014 20:27 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist(a)gmail.com>: > Am 29. März 2014 18:15 schrieb Stefan Keller <sfkeller(a)gmail.com>: > > > Wie oben erwähnt, muss eine CAPTCHA.Aufgabe in ein/zwei Sätzen erklärt > sein > > und innert wenigen Sekunden entscheidbar sein. Beides ist für die 18 > > Dachformen und deren Darstellung/Erläuterung nicht gegeben. Ich schätze, > > dass auch ein Mapper kaum ein Drittel der 18 Dachformen richtig benennen > > könnte. > > > > > man könnte eine Serie von typologischen Bildern (wo was in der Art wie oben > mal verlinkt) zum Anklicken anbieten z.B., wobei ich in gewisser Weise auch > bei Euch bin, 3D Mapping ist eher kein geeignetes Captcha Thema. Wenn es um > freie Eingaben geht, dann wird es in der Tat schwierig, weil man solche > Fachwörter normalerweise kaum auf Englisch kennt, und weil es für dieselbe > Form vermutlich gelegentlich mal mehrere Wörter passen (wenn sie auch nicht > inhaltsgleich sind, so gibt es öfters mal spezifische und allgemeine > Wörter, die beide passen), idealerweise aber derselbe Tag verwendet werden > sollte. > > Gruß Martin > _______________________________________________ > Talk-de mailing list > Talk-de(a)openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de >

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Important correction SOSM AGM/Mapping Party in Burgdorf
by Simon Poole 04 Apr '14

04 Apr '14

It seems as if we got the address wrong in Burgdorf. The Restaurant Schützenshaus is at the Wynigenstrasse 13, not on Bahnhofstrasse as originally indicated, please see the map here http://sosm.ch/sosm-2014-annual-general-meeting/ Sorry for the confusion Simon

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Fwd: Re: Swiss monuments
by Andreas Bürki 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

FYI cheeeers, h. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: Swiss monuments Datum: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:02:18 +0200 Von: Andreas Bürki <abuerki(a)anidor.com> An: Estermann Beat <beat.estermann(a)bfh.ch> Kopie (CC): 'Gerard Meijssen' <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>, Lydia Pintscher <Lydia.Pintscher(a)wikimedia.de>, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>, Susanna Ånäs <susanna.anas(a)wikimedia.fi> Dear Beat So far I have no helpful thoughts on this issue. But, thanks god I'm not the only OSM dude, thus I share this email with the Swiss OSM ML, there read people with much more OSM insight and experience than I have. Cheeeers, h. Am 28.03.2014 08:34, schrieb Estermann Beat: > Well, if we agree on working on data from Switzerland, we should check > which historical maps are available for Switzerland and maybe also think > about integrating the inventory of historical roads (it is available as > a geo-service). > > > > It should also be noted that the monuments lists from the confederation > don’t contain the years of construction of the buildings. However, in > connection with historical maps, it could be fun to use data that > includes the periods of construction, so you could actually only show > buildings that had already existed at the time, along with the major > roads of the time. I think we have a data set from the canton of Zurich > that could be used for this (for the other cantons, the situation varies > greatly). > > > > @Susanna: Is this something that could be connected to the work you have > been doing so far, or are you exclusively focusing on Scandinavia? – > What would be the extra effort of including Swiss map data into your > framework? How can we help with this? > > > > I’m including Andreas Bürki from the Swiss OSM community, so he can > throw in his thoughts on this. > > > > Cheers, > > Beat > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:*Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Freitag, 28. März 2014 08:18 > *To:* Estermann Beat > *Cc:* Lydia Pintscher; Magnus Manske; Susanna Ånäs > *Subject:* Re: Swiss monuments > > > > Hoi, > > We already can put things on a map based on a query using the unofficial > tools. There will be map people in Zurich so working on Maps makes > sense. It makes particular sense because Susanna is involved in historic > maps and putting both monuments on the map and maybe even putting them > on historic maps seems to me like a way to get to synergy. > > > > So when you can get more OSM people to Zurich, I think they will have fun. > > Thanks, > > Gerard > > > > On 28 March 2014 07:51, Estermann Beat <beat.estermann(a)bfh.ch > <mailto:beat.estermann@bfh.ch>> wrote: > > Dear Gerard, dear all, > > > > I would be happy to work on this during the Zurich Hackathon. I have > good connections to the data owner and the Wikipedians who have set up > the monuments lists in the German Wikipedia, so I could certainly bring > in these perspectives and maybe also invite a few people to join us if > necessary. > > > > One programmer from Zurich might also be interested in helping with > this; I would however need to check with him to be sure. Software > programmers are generally over-committed at such events, and he also is > still studying, so May might be a busy month from that side as well. > > > > I think it would be good to clarify in advance everybody’s availability > during the hackathon and to decide on a rough work plan. > > > > And please also let me know if you want to have OSM people on board for > this as well, or whether that would be a separate project. > > > > Cheers, > > Beat > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:*Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com > <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Freitag, 28. März 2014 05:48 > *To:* Estermann Beat > *Cc:* Lydia Pintscher; Magnus Manske > *Subject:* Re: Swiss monuments > > > > Hoi, > > Yes, you are missing something. The tools I show you are not official > and are not based in LUA. I would love to have the official > functionality available but it is not. What I do know is that Lydia and > her team will be in Zurich and she may work with us on exactly this. > > > > The fact of the matter is that we can do what you need except it will be > using Wikidata and not LUA on WIkipedia. > > Thanks, > > Gerard > > > > On 27 March 2014 22:03, Estermann Beat <beat.estermann(a)bfh.ch > <mailto:beat.estermann@bfh.ch>> wrote: > > Hi Gerard, > > > > I think as next steps we would need: > > > > - A Lua implementation of a monuments list (some sort of pilot > implementation to demonstrate how the data will be included via a > wikidata query) > > - An interface to easily update monuments lists (I’m not sure > whether Wikipedians will like the idea of having to update lists by > editing Wikidata – I would expect some non-trivial usability issues > there – ideally, it would be like editing an Excel table) > > - Transfer of all the monuments data to wikidata (there seems > to be still quite a lot of data missing) > > - Replacement of all the old monuments lists by new lists based > on Lua. > > > > Does that make sense? – Am I missing something? > > > > Beat > > > > *From:*Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com > <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Donnerstag, 27. März 2014 14:50 > *To:* Estermann Beat > *Subject:* Re: Swiss monuments > > > > Hoi, > > Now that labs is working > again, http://208.80.153.172/wdq/?q=claim[31:12126757] > <http://208.80.153.172/wdq/?q=claim%5b31:12126757%5d> is a query that > shows every item that is considered a "Swiss cultural property of > regional significance". > > > > <grin> just for your amusement </grin> By the way I added images to 86 > Wikidata items :) it did not take long and, it was one result of the query. > > Gerard > > > > On 27 March 2014 10:02, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com > <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hoi, > > It is relatively easy to make a query with all items that have a KGS > number. <grin> labs willing and labs is down for this atm </grin>. > > The point of such a list is very much for others to use. It is trivial > to add missing items to wikidata. Once they have a KGS number, they will > just pop up after ten minutes when the query is re-run. What is > problematic from my point of view, is the way information is added to > Wikidata. The fact that something is a Swiss monument is implicit in the > KGS number so it does not need to be an "instance of" because at best it > is an attribute of the building that you describe. > > It is not a real problem; it has everything to do with the immaturity of > Wikidata. The cool thing is that because of queries and bots and it > being in a database it is rather easy to fix. > > When you want labels for all these items in other languages, it is > rather easy as well when you use Reasonator. With a user has it set up > properly, he can add labels and the processing is done while he goes on > with a next item. > > The only thing that is relevant is that you should concentrate on one > place where you make changes. WHen you use Wikidata, you can use LUA to > reflect the changes in the Wikipedias. > > PS I will be in Zurich for the hackathon.. Is this something that would > be adavantageous ? > > Thanks, > > Gerard > > > > > > On 27 March 2014 09:11, Estermann Beat <beat.estermann(a)bfh.ch > <mailto:beat.estermann@bfh.ch>> wrote: > > Hoi Gerard, > > > > Sure. I’m happy to help. > > > > The KGS-Nr. already has a wikidata property, in English: “PCP reference > number”: > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P381 > > > > The following page and related talk page may also be of interest to you: > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Cultural_heritage_task_force > > > > And here is some more background information about the lists that were > used for WLM 2013: > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweizer_Denkmallisten… > > > > Feel free to send me more questions as they arise. > > > > Would it make sense to make a roadmap for the things you would like to > implement? > > > > Cheers, > > Beat > > > > > > > > *From:*Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com > <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Donnerstag, 27. März 2014 06:58 > *To:* Estermann Beat > *Subject:* Swiss monuments > > > > Hoi, > > Could you help out with questions about the list that you identified ? > > > > The first question I have is: What is the KGS number and, what is its > status.. Should it have a Wikidata property / does it have a Wikidata > property ? > > Thanks, > > Gerard > > > > > > > > > -- Andreas Bürki abuerki(a)anidor.com S/MIME certificate - SHA1 fingerprint: ED:A5:F3:60:70:8B:4C:16:44:18:96:AE:67:B9:CA:77:AE:DA:83:11 GnuPG - GPG fingerprint: 5DA7 5F48 25BD D2D7 E488 05DF 5A99 A321 7E42 0227

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Voting for proposal Tag:route=piste
by Thorsten Kurz 30 Mar '14

30 Mar '14

Hi, a while ago I made a proposal for a tag route=piste that is consistent with the Piste Maps Proposal and provides a wider use than the older tag route=ski. The tag has been discussed and adopted since, but we never had a voting for it. Now Yvecai has decided to move things forward and started a voting in order to make it "official": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:route%3Dpiste#Vot… Thanks for having a look and giving your vote! Thorsten (Shernott) ======================================================================= Hallo, vor einiger Zeit habe ich einen Vorschlag für ein Tag route=piste gemacht, der konsistent mit dem Piste Maps Proposal ist und eine weitere Nutzung als das ältere Tag route=ski erlaubt. Seither wurde das Tag diskutiert und eingesetzt, aber wir hatten bisher noch kein Voting dafür. Nun hat Yvecai beschlossen, die Sache voranzubringen und ein Voting gestartet: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:route%3Dpiste#Vot… Danke für Eure Aufmerksamkeit und Eure Votes! Thorsten (Shernott)

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neuer Tag: amenity=boat_sharing
by Gilbert Hangartner 29 Mar '14

29 Mar '14

Hallo zusammen, Möchten die Boots-Standorte von verschiedenen Boatsharing-Anbietern in der Schweiz auf OSM bringen. Der Tag ist ganz analog zur tag "amenity=car_sharing" gedacht. Habe dazu ein Proposal erstellt, dass z.Z. im Voting ist. Danke für Eure Votes! Gruss, nounours77 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boat_sharing

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ReMAPTCHA Demo BETA 0.2 online!
by Stefan Keller 28 Mar '14

28 Mar '14

Liebe alle Die ReMAPTCHA Demo BETA 0.2 ist nun endlich bereit zum Testen: http://remaptcha.herokuapp.com/ Sollte ja selbsterklärend sein... ;-O (ReMAPTCHA = "ReCAPTCHA for MAPs") Was nicht alle realisieren: Mit der Eingabe von ein bzw. zwei Worten bestätigt man, ob die OSM-Ways eine Verbindung haben - oder eben nicht. Bei - sagen wir - 5 Übereinstimmungen betrachten wir diese Lösung als zuverlässig. Die Datengrundlage und die Performance sind noch nicht optimal: Als Datengrundlage musste ich mich beispielsweise auf die Schweiz beschränken, da ich möglichst detailreiche Luftbilder brauche (für Hinweise auf zugängliche Luft- und Satellitenbilder bin ich dankbar). Und die mangelnde Performance sieht man daran, dass man mit der Maus recht lange im Icon rechts oben warten muss, bis das Satellitenbild erscheint. Beachtet bitte, dass alles erst BETA ist und noch nichts in die OSM-DB geschrieben wird. Für Hinweise, Vorschläge und ermunternde (:-)) Kommentare bin ich dankbar. --S.

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Internet rights approved in Brazil
by rupert THURNER 26 Mar '14

26 Mar '14

---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Von: "Oona Castro" <oonacastro(a)gmail.com> Datum: 26.03.2014 01:11 Betreff: [Wikimedia-l] Internet rights approved in Brazil An: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hello all! Subject is not 100% related to Wikimedia, but definitely important for the future of projects like ours. Marco civil da Internet (the Brazilian internet civil rights bill) has just been approved by the Brazilian Congress< http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/camara-aprova-marco-civil-da-internet-projeto-… >. Now the Senate still needs to approve it. The bill has been recently supported < http://www.webfoundation.org/2014/03/marco-civil-statement-of-support-from-… >by Sir Tim Berners-Lee.[1] Back in 2007, several Brazilian civil society organizations started to fight against bills which were about to be approved creating a penal law over certain uses of internet. This fight led the Brazilian government to build, together with other Brazilian organizations, a request for comment/collaborative platform<http://culturadigital.br/marcocivil/sobre/>[2] for the creation of a civil rights bill for the internet. Contributions were gathered together and a first draft was proposed for another round of public comments on 2010. A first draft was negotiated within the government in 2011. A lot of lobby over the Congress was carried out especially against the articles about net neutrality and internet service providers liability (both by telecommunication companies and the intellectual property industries, but mainly the former - they wanted all internet service providers to be obliged to remove content under a simple notification claiming the content should be removed. Internet civil rights activists claimed for the need of a justice decision about that). The case of NSA spying Brazil< http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/noticia/2013/09/nsa-documents-show-united-st… >made the government become fonder of the Marco Civil bill, fostering its approval in the Congress. Since the first draft of the bill, some aspects were lost, but the bill remains important and mostly beneficial to internet rights in my opinion. It's been a long process, with lots of threats to this initiative, but in the end the balance seems good. Good the the freedom of expression and good for net neutrality. Best regards Oona [1] http://www.webfoundation.org/2014/03/marco-civil-statement-of-support-from-… [2] http://culturadigital.br/marcocivil/sobre/ [3] http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/noticia/2013/09/nsa-documents-show-united-st… Other links: a. Research about media piracy - the Brazilian chapter brings the history of the Marco Civil da Internet by 2010. - http://piracy.americanassembly.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MPEE-PDF-1.0.… b. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/01/brazil-legislate-online-civil-… c. http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/02/19/amendments-to-brazils-bill-of-righ… d. https://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/03/12/brazil-marcocivil-bill-of-rights/ e. https://twitter.com/marcocivil _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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neuer stil auf osm.ch
by michael spreng 26 Mar '14

26 Mar '14

Hallo Es gibt einen neuen Kartenstil auf osm.ch, den swiss style. Man kann ihn über den layer switch (rechts oben) auswählen. Vielen Dank an Tobias Schmitz von der HSR der den Kartenstil entwickelt hat. Die Quellen des Stils sind auf github (https://github.com/xyztobixyz/OSM-Swiss-Style) unter freier Lizenz verfügbar. Grüsse Michael

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