Hi Michael,

I'd like find out whether the current UIC number in OSM (8588433) of these four unconnected bus stops (all named "Bessières) is just missing in the DIDOK list or if it was dropped from DIDOK and replaced by the one of the metro station "Bessières" (8589523).

That's why I'm wondering how to match a real bus stop with the UIC names and numbers in the DIDOK list. Are the UIC names unique too? Could I conclude from the fact that the bus stops and the metro station are all called "Bessières" that they must share the same UIC ref too?

Thorsten

On 05.02.2014 22:46, Michael Spreng wrote:

Hi Thorsten

The black and red dots on the map represent the DIDOK data. Just click on it and a popup will show you the respective UIC number.

Hope that helps Michael

On 02/05/2014 10:03 PM, Thorsten Kurz wrote:

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Hi Michael,

Thanks for the updated map. I was just having a look around in Lausanne and found four unconnected bus stops at Bessières: http://didok.osm.ch/#18:46.521284:6.637156

I'm pretty sure that these bus stops still exist. Is it possible that they were joined to the nearby Metro station with the same name? Is there a way to find out the uic_ref of an individual bus stop?

Thorsten

On 05.02.2014 21:02, Michael Spreng wrote:

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Hello fellow mappers

I did an update to the public transport map comparing OSM data with data from DIDOK, the official list of public transport stops in Switzerland from BAV. Tha data used now is form the last time table change. With this update the map now resides on the SOSM server, and not on my personal one any more. The new address is http://didok.osm.ch

It is quite a while since the initial import of DIDOK into OSM. Lots of things have changed, so please have a look at the map and see if something in your vicinity is outdated:

Look for stops which are in OSM but not in DIDOK (layer "stops only in didok") Look for stops which are in DIDOK but not in OSM (layer "stops only in osm")

Also, there are still 7200 unchecked stops which were imported from DIDOK which are potentially wrong. If you feel like verifying a few, look at the layer "survey state of nodes"

Thank you to everybody mapping and maintaining public transport stops Michael

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Am 05.02.2014 23:26, schrieb Thorsten Kurz:

Hi Michael,

I'd like find out whether the current UIC number in OSM (8588433) of these four unconnected bus stops (all named "Bessières) is just missing in the DIDOK list or if it was dropped from DIDOK and replaced by the one of the metro station "Bessières" (8589523).

That's why I'm wondering how to match a real bus stop with the UIC names and numbers in the DIDOK list. Are the UIC names unique too? Could I conclude from the fact that the bus stops and the metro station are all called "Bessières" that they must share the same UIC ref too?

Thorsten

Hi Thorsten

In respect to uic_ref and uic_name we relied on the didok list completely. If there is an actual bus stop on the ground, we matched it with the most likely didok stop and took the uic_ref and uic_name from that one.

In the case of Bessières, it seems they removed a distinct uic for the bus stops. Interestingly, they just did the opposite in Zurich: Hardbruecke has distinct uics for the bus stop and the train station.

As an alternative source of information I can recommend the SBB time table. Unfortunately it doesn't display the uic, but the names usually match uic_name.

I think UIC names are unique. See http://www.cadastre.ch/internet/cadastre/de/home/docu/publication/p096.html with rules about how to write stop names. But unfortunately you can't survey UIC names on the ground, only the names.

I would attach the bus stops to the metro station, because it's the closest match in DIDOK.

Michael