Redaction tries to retain as much as possible of the work in the changesets, in particular deletions are maintained (the last time I looked at this in detail is a longish time ago, so I might be wrong, naturally it could be argued that that behaviour doesn't make sense post licence change). So in general the redaction should have been applied post revert in this case, which doesn't seem to be the case here.
Simon
Am 25.07.2018 um 10:09 schrieb _ dikkeknodel:
Hi Simon,
I am not sure what you mean here, can you explain what you mean by ‘I doubt that something has gone wrong’?
To my understanding the redaction should have brought the nodes and ways back to the state from before the copyright infringement. For the sample of buildings I checked that state was being a rectangular way tagged as building=yes and thus also 4 nodes. Now the way has three nodes, and thus is a triangle. To me and probably most others this looks like a unsuccessful redaction.
Cheers,
dikkeknodel
*Van: *Simon Poole mailto:simon@poole.ch *Verzonden: *woensdag 25 juli 2018 09:55 *Onderwerp: *Re: [talk-ch] Corrupt buildings
I doubt that something has gone wrong. A redaction is not a revert (aka it doesn't restore a previous state of an object), so the result depends on what happened in the changeset that is being redacted.
If a building was added then it will simply vanish, if the geometry was manipulated (for example by removing and adding a node) the results might not be what is "expected".
Simon
Am 25.07.2018 um 09:41 schrieb Stefan Keller:
Hi Nelson
2018-07-25 8:29 GMT+02:00 _ dikkeknodel wrote:
Something seems to have gone wrong with the redaction is my conclusion.
Indeed: https://osm.org/go/0CYTlJg8k--?way=317495841
Any explanations why?
:Stefan
2018-07-25 8:29 GMT+02:00 _ dikkeknodel dikkeknodel@hotmail.com:
Hi all,
I had a closer look at the naoliv’s redaction CS61021881.
I see, many previously rectangular buildings have now become
triangles or
just an open L-shape.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317495841
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317495891
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317487442
etc.
More complex shapes have also lost a node and became less complex
with some
very weird shapes.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317487614
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317336799
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317336826
etc.
It is all over the place basically. If a look to the pre-redaction
version
of the buildings, they seem to be nicely rectangular.
It also seems that the address data entered with CS60359203,
CS60359697 and
CS60359350 have been (mistakenly) redacted (the blue ones in
achavi, tag
change only). These CSs mention local knowledge as source and there
is no
mention in the changesets discussions of any problem.
Something seems to have gone wrong with the redaction is my conclusion.
Cheers,
dikkeknodel
Van: talk-ch talk-ch-bounces@openstreetmap.ch namens marc marc marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com Verzonden: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:13:37 AM Aan: talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch Onderwerp: Re: [talk-ch] Corrupt buildings
witch building in this changeset is corrupt after naoliv change and not before ?
Le 25. 07. 18 à 01:26, Kt47uo5uVzW a écrit :
Check this: https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=61021881
No I'm not involved in any kind of this import/region.
Regards
marc marc: > Hello, > > Le 25. 07. 18 à 00:25, Kt47uo5uVzW a écrit : >> I think the latest changesets from user 'naoliv' are erroneous. >> Can somewhere check and maybe revert this? Thanks. > > can you give an exemple ? > naoliv redact (hidde) data copied from Fribourg cadastre > (the licence of the canton of Fribourg doesn't allow it). > so a building should not be corrupted by this redact > but it should be already corrupt before. > > are you the guy that did the import ? > > Regards, > Marc > _______________________________________________ > talk-ch mailing list > talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch mailto:talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch >
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