Hi, I'm no expert on the school system. Tagging vocational school type sounds interesting and I guess easier to check on the ground than diploma type.
Were you thinking using an existing tag and e.g. amenity=college / school=professional_education / amenity=school
and adding something to describe the type of vocation? E.g. school:studies
Did you aready see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dschool#school%3Atype ?
Regards, James.
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- Switzerland-specific tagging of schools (Toggenburger Lukas)
Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 20:38:27 +0000 From: Toggenburger Lukas Lukas.Toggenburger@fhgr.ch To: "talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch" talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch Subject: [talk-ch] Switzerland-specific tagging of schools Message-ID: 8ede2af993864320adc060e8099442b2@fhgr.ch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear list
I recently thought about creating a Switzerland-specific tagging scheme that would allow to specify the different kinds of school that exist in Switzerland. Wikipedia [1] gives a good introduction: However, it is incomplete, as [2] shows (it lists 39 types of educations one can achieve in Switzerland). I tried to create a summary and some tagging ideas at [3], but got a bit stuck. I encountered several stumbling blocks:
- Instead of tagging schools, it might make more sense to tag diplomas
one can achieve. E.g. at a vocational school (Berufsfachschule, ehemals Berufsschule) you can do your diploma (vocational baccalaureate ("Berufsmaturität")) _during_ your vocational training or _afterwards_.
- The name of a school does not clearly indicate the diploma you will
achieve: E.g. at [4] (Fachmaturitätsschule FMS) one can achieve a "Fachmittelschulausweis" (giving access to PET college (HF)) and later on one can achieve a "Fachmaturitätszeugnis" (giving access to university of applied science (FH)).
- The same type of diploma can be achieved at different schools: Example:
[5] "Berufsmaturität" can be achieved at "Berufsfachschule", "Handelsmittelschule", "Informatikmittelschule".
Are others interested in defining such a Switzerland-specific tagging scheme? I can think of several different strategies:
a. Define types of school (e.g. "Berufsfachschule") and their tags b. Define types of diplomas (e.g. "Berufsmaturität") and their tags c. Group together several schools/diplomas, e.g. based on their ISCED level, see [6] d. Define tags for only the most important (i.e. frequent) schools (preferably in a way that won't hinder more detailed mapping later on)
I'm a bit hesitant too define a catch-all, super-detailed tagging scheme, because I fear it will be both hard to map (correctly/completely) and also hard to use for data consumers.
What do you think?
Also, is there someone who has a bit of in-depth knowledge of ISCED? E.g. regarding the difference between ISCED-P and ISCED-A?
Best regards
Lukas
[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildungssystem_in_der_Schweiz#Schulstufen [2] http://uis.unesco.org/sites/default/files/documents/iscmap_che_2020.xlsx [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Skorbut [4] https://www.edubs.ch/schullaufbahn/fms [5] https://www.zh.ch/de/bildung/schulen/maturitaetsschule/berufsmaturitaetsschu... [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Classification_of_Educa...
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