As promised I updated the data yesterday and over the night the statistics have been re-run.
One of the major differences that I saw is that some of the cantons now have moved away from just setting "none" as the object type and are doing a proper classification again. Given that is it unlikely that Switzerland actually added 36'000 streets / places over the last two years I assume the major part of the increase on the GWR side is improved data quality.
GWR OSM (matched)
2017 2019
Streets 125'781 158'272 115'121
Points 2'374 1'918 N/A
Areas 25'025 55'079 N/A
None 34'700 7'989 N/A
Total 187'880 223'258 139'626 (+ 4'938 with minor spelling differences)
For the per municipality numbers see http://qa.poole.ch/ch-roads/ and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_-_GWR_Street_and_Place_Names_Compari... for explanations.
In case it is isn't clear: *yes* you should be working on the missing streets and roads, at least where you live and neighbouring places, this is far easier than it used to be given that we can now locate them via the GWR address data http://qa.poole.ch/addresses/ch/ (when I worked through the Canton Aargau years back finding the roads on the ground was rather tiresome and sometimes not even possible).
Simon
Am 09.11.2019 um 21:48 schrieb Simon Poole:
Hi Marc
The entry in the current street list is
1065147 0 9903 FR 2043 1541 3 La Guérite La Guérite Gué 1 9803 9835 110014 08.11.2019
The address data for Sévaz contains a number of entries for La Guérite so it is obviously really in the data and not just in the street list.
As to correcting this, it really depends on how your canton handles entering the data in the GWR, if the municipality enters it then they probably need to fix this themselves, otherwise whoever in canton adds the data needs to have a look at it.
Simon
PS: I haven't updated the list in a long time because it seemed to have vanished, aka there wasn't a link to it on the BfS website any more, but I've now found it again, so I'll update.
Am 09.11.2019 um 14:57 schrieb marc marc:
Bonjour,
j'ai discuté il y a 2 ans avec le syndic, il est réceptif à l'idée de corriger la donnée à la source du problème, MAIS :
- maintenant que les données adresse du GWR sont libres,
je constate bien qu'il n'y a aucune adresse "La Guérite"
- comment/où est-ce que le syndic peux constater qu'il y a une erreur
dans les données de la commune ou du canton ? la liste des rues utilisée par le comparateur est-elle consultable en brut ? Sur le site du canton et de la confédération, il n'y a aucune adresse en cherchant "La Guérite". C'est donc difficile de montrer qu'il y a une donnée erronée chez eux. Je pense à un bug dans le générateur du fichier avec le nom des rues, avez-vous moyen de leur poster la question ? idem pour les 3 autres lieu-dit sans adresse de la commune.
Salutations, Marc
Le 28.11.17 à 14:32, Simon Poole a écrit :
The GWR data is collected by the municipalities/cantons not by the BfS and IMHO (and what has always been the conclusion when I've raised the topic with them) is that, if at all, corrections should happen at that level.
Adding a place=locality (if you have a way to actually know where that is) is quite legit if it really exists.
As to the last question, we don't have access to the full GWR data yet, the street list is generated by the BfS from the GWR data so should contain everything but who knows....
As to the raw data, we've been talking to the BfS about obtaining the GWR data directly (and not via a swisstopo service) as in principle the new ordinance from mid this year does not prohibit such access, and have received a statement that the first files should be available for download in Q1 next year. However this is all very fuzzy and hand wavy at this point in time, in particular as to what the actual use terms will be (which is the critical point for us).
Simon
Am 28.11.2017 um 13:38 schrieb marc marc:
Avons-nous un moyen pour signaler les erreurs au GWR ? Un moyen pour ajouter un flag "erreur GWR" dans la comparaison ?
Je n'ai pas encore ajouté place=locality dans osm, je voulais garder l'erreur visible car c'est plus facile pour en parler.
La base GWR utilisée pour la comparaison ne contient aucun adresse avec le lieu "La Guérite" ?
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