As promised I updated the data yesterday and over the night the statistics have been re-run.

One of the major differences that I saw is that some of the cantons now have moved away from just setting "none" as the object type and are doing a proper classification again. Given that is it unlikely that Switzerland actually added 36'000 streets / places over the last two years I assume the major part of the increase on the GWR side is improved data quality.

            GWR                OSM (matched)

            2017      2019

Streets     125'781   158'272  115'121

Points        2'374     1'918  N/A

Areas        25'025    55'079  N/A

None         34'700     7'989  N/A

Total       187'880   223'258  139'626 (+ 4'938 with minor spelling differences)

For the per municipality numbers see  http://qa.poole.ch/ch-roads/ and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_-_GWR_Street_and_Place_Names_Comparison for explanations.

In case it is isn't clear: yes you should be working on the missing streets and roads, at least where you live and neighbouring places, this is far easier than it used to be given that we can now locate them via the GWR address data http://qa.poole.ch/addresses/ch/ (when I worked through the Canton Aargau years back finding the roads on the ground was rather tiresome and sometimes not even possible).

Simon

Am 09.11.2019 um 21:48 schrieb Simon Poole:
Hi Marc

The entry in the current street list is


1065147 0       9903    FR      2043    1541    3       La Guérite     
La Guérite      Gué             1       9803    9835    110014  08.11.2019

The address data for Sévaz contains a number of entries for La Guérite
so it is obviously really in the data and not just in the street list.

As to correcting this, it really depends on how your canton handles
entering the data in the GWR, if the municipality enters it then they
probably need to fix this themselves, otherwise whoever in canton adds
the data needs to have a look at it.

Simon

PS: I haven't updated the list in a long time because it seemed to have
vanished, aka there wasn't a link to it on the BfS website any more, but
I've now found it again, so I'll update.

Am 09.11.2019 um 14:57 schrieb marc marc:
Bonjour,

j'ai discuté il y a 2 ans avec le syndic, il est réceptif à l'idée
de corriger la donnée à la source du problème, MAIS :
- maintenant que les données adresse du GWR sont libres,
je constate bien qu'il n'y a aucune adresse "La Guérite"
- comment/où est-ce que le syndic peux constater qu'il y a une erreur 
dans les données de la commune ou du canton ? la liste des rues utilisée 
par le comparateur est-elle consultable en brut ?
Sur le site du canton et de la confédération, il n'y a aucune adresse
en cherchant "La Guérite". C'est donc difficile de montrer qu'il
y a une donnée erronée chez eux. Je pense à un bug dans le générateur
du fichier avec le nom des rues, avez-vous moyen de leur poster
la question ?
idem pour les 3 autres lieu-dit sans adresse de la commune.

Salutations,
Marc

Le 28.11.17 à 14:32, Simon Poole a écrit :
The GWR data is collected by the municipalities/cantons not by the BfS
and IMHO (and what has always been the conclusion when I've raised the
topic with them) is that, if at all, corrections should happen at that
level.

Adding a place=locality (if you have a way to actually know where that
is) is quite legit if it really exists.

As to the last question, we don't have access to the full GWR data yet,
the street list is generated by the BfS from the GWR data so should
contain everything but who knows....

As to the raw data, we've been talking to the BfS about obtaining the
GWR data directly (and not via a swisstopo service) as in principle the
new ordinance from mid this year does not prohibit such access, and have
received a statement that the first files should be available for
download in Q1 next year. However this is all very fuzzy and hand wavy
at this point in time, in particular as to what the actual use terms
will be (which is the critical point for us).

Simon


Am 28.11.2017 um 13:38 schrieb marc marc:
Avons-nous un moyen pour signaler les erreurs au GWR ?
Un moyen pour ajouter un flag "erreur GWR" dans la comparaison ?

Je n'ai pas encore ajouté place=locality dans osm, je voulais garder
l'erreur visible car c'est plus facile pour en parler.

La base GWR utilisée pour la comparaison ne contient aucun adresse avec
le lieu "La Guérite" ?

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