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Differences in Municipalities to swissboundaries
by GMUER Daniel 09 Sep '22

09 Sep '22

Hi all. As far as I understand there was an Import of the Municipalityboundaries from swissboundaries at around 2011 [1]. There are also annual "Municipality Mergers" [2] for municipalities that were merged. Is there is also a defined workflow to keep changes on the geometries of the municipalityboundaries (admin_level=8) up to date in openstreetmap? For example, right now there are differences in Lakes like Lago Maggiore, Lago di Lugano and Lac Léman where the boundaries in osm follow the coastline but in swissboundaries the middle of the lakes. There are also other changes e.g. [3] that are not up to date in osm [4]. If there is no such workflow, I assume it is ok to adjust the border manually by following the vertexes of swissboundaries? Thanks for your advice Daniel [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Switzerland/swissBOUNDARIES3D [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/2022_Municipality_Mergers [3] https://www.bern-ost.ch/MuensingenRubigen---Grenzverlauf-bereinigt-602417 [4] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/46.87921/7.54186

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Re: [talk-ch] New Membership Outreach
by Paul Brunner 01 Sep '22

01 Sep '22

Would the Welcome Tool <https://welcome.osm.be> (wiki page here <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_tool>) be helpful in welcoming and orienting new members? Simon, I thought I remembered you saying it was quite a bit of work sending the emails out the current way. (Resending with different subject line.)

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New Membership Outreach
by Christopher Beddow 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

After the FOSS4G conference in Firenze, I realize I met many people who are in Zürich and maybe some other parts of Switzerland but not part of the SOSM community. What is the best way to point people to a welcome resource or give some kind of invite to join discussions? Should we consider any additional channels? Previously I proposed making a Facebook page (not group) which serves as a good way for me to use some advertising credit to promote the page to demographics in Switzerland as an advertisement. But ideally that's not the central place just a pointer toward mailing list and other places. Is there any newsletter that may be more consolidated than the mailing list (could link to top mailing list topics). I am still new but definitely interested to have a good link to send to people to get more involved if they are totally unfamiliar with mailing lists and need a point of entry.

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Re: [talk-ch] talk-ch Digest, Vol 2245, Issue 1
by Paul Brunner 30 Aug '22

30 Aug '22

Would the Welcome Tool <https://welcome.osm.be/> (wiki page here <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_tool>) be helpful in welcoming and orienting new members? Simon, I thought I remembered you saying it was quite a bit of work sending the emails out the current way. On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 11:28, <talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch> wrote: > Send talk-ch mailing list submissions to > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ch-owner(a)openstreetmap.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk-ch digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New Membership Outreach (Christopher Beddow) > 2. Re: New Membership Outreach (Peter Elderson) > 3. Re: New Membership Outreach (Simon Poole) > 4. Re: New Membership Outreach (Christopher Beddow) > 5. Re: New Membership Outreach (Simon Poole) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 19:02:24 +0200 > From: Christopher Beddow <christopher.beddow(a)gmail.com> > To: "Openstreetmap Schweiz/Suisse/Svizzera/Svizra" > <talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch> > Subject: [talk-ch] New Membership Outreach > Message-ID: > < > CADzfi1Wc3FL55Omd2sh2cB8FbNWVC4X_4DrZwm1D5qfUho9OQA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > After the FOSS4G conference in Firenze, I realize I met many people who are > in Zürich and maybe some other parts of Switzerland but not part of the > SOSM community. > > What is the best way to point people to a welcome resource or give some > kind of invite to join discussions? > > Should we consider any additional channels? > > Previously I proposed making a Facebook page (not group) which serves as a > good way for me to use some advertising credit to promote the page to > demographics in Switzerland as an advertisement. But ideally that's not the > central place just a pointer toward mailing list and other places. > > Is there any newsletter that may be more consolidated than the mailing list > (could link to top mailing list topics). > > I am still new but definitely interested to have a good link to send to > people to get more involved if they are totally unfamiliar with mailing > lists and need a point of entry. >

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SwissTopo relief on Opensnowmap
by yvecai 27 Aug '22

27 Aug '22

J'ai rajouté un layer juste pour nous sur Opensnowmap : https://blog.opensnowmap.org/high-resolution-relief-for-switzerland/ J'espère que aimerez ! Yves

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editor conflict
by Oreg2 25 Aug '22

25 Aug '22

Hi all, I could use your advice how to resolve a conflict with another editor. Three weeks ago I recorded a few GPS traces of hiking paths in the Bergell / Bregaglia valley and used them to create relations for the Via Panoramica (relation 14414965) and the Via Bregaglia (relation 14425116) with a variant via Bondo (relation 14425264), all according to the physical signposts on the ground. When I looked again a couple of weeks later I found that my Via Panoramica had been deleted and my Via Bregaglia changed in a massive changeset (124772603) touching 157 ways, 27 relations and 236 nodes, with no source or explanation. There are two new "Sentiero Panoramico" / "Via Panoramica" relations (14449302 and 14449306), neither of which conforms to my survey trace nor the official Switzerland Mobility map. I'm not sure what has changed in the Via Bregaglia relations. A number of tags have been dropped from all of the above relations, others replaced by, in my view, incorrect ones. (I had actually added another Via Bregaglia relation according to the tourist office website. From this, all but one member were dropped. But that website has multiple contradictory maps and descriptions, so I don't trust it and don't mind too much that this relation was practically deleted.) So I started a discussion of the changeset with its editor: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124772603 I tried not to ask everything at once, so didn't even get to the missing tags, yet. But you can see how the discussion has been going. After two responses the other editor seems to have fallen silent. I'd give him a few more days, though. I do not see any indication how his changes were improvements over my work. What I would like to get to is have my Via Panoramica relation and the dropped tags restored. Ideally, I could convince the other editor to do this but I'm not too optimistic. What do you think? How should I proceed? (Feel free to respond in German if you prefer.) Thanks for any advice, Oreg2

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OSM-Stammtisch Zürich: 11. August
by Patrick Stählin 11 Aug '22

11 Aug '22

Salut! Der nächste OSM-Stammtisch in Zürich findet am nächste Woche am Donnerstag statt. Wir treffen uns in der Bitwäscherei[1], ein Hackerspace in der alten Zürcher Zentralwäscherei. Der Hackerspace ist ein paar Fuss-Minuten vom Bahnhof Hardbrücke entfernt (~300m laut OSRM). Datum: Montag, 11. Juli 2022 Zeit: ab 18:30 Uhr Ort: Bitwäscherei[1], Neue Hard 12, Zürich Weitere Infos und unverbindliche Anmeldung [2]. [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7658441951 [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen#… Gruss Packi

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Bus Stop Tagging Guildlines - Help wanted
by Terryyy Zhang 07 Aug '22

07 Aug '22

Hi all, I am trying to add new bus stops following the route change of bus 12.701<https://www.mbc.ch/posts/news/18157705> since 07.2022. Four new bus stops are to be added: St-Sulpice, Castolin St-Sulpice, En Champagny St-Sulpice, Ochettaz-Ormet St-Sulpice, Pré-Fleuri These stops are completely new so I need to create them from scratch. However, I am not familiar with the bus stop tagging in Switzerland, seems that the data are all imported at some time. E.g. where can I find the "uic_ref" data of a bus stop ? Best, Terry

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MapRoulette challenges for quality checks
by Marjan Van de Kauter 04 Aug '22

04 Aug '22

Hi everyone, I'm Marjan from TomTom. Below you will also find a German and French translation of this message, created with the help of DeepL. I'm reaching out to you because I have a couple of MapRoulette challenges that I would like to share. These challenges can help you fix different types of data issues in Switzerland. You can find all of them in this MapRoulette project<https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/49038>. The tasks in the challenges were generated using public instances of OSM quality assurance tools such as Atlas and Osmose, and internally developed and validated quality checks. You can go through the challenges one task at a time, assess the data and correct quality errors where needed. (If you spot a false positive, you can mark it as "Not an issue".) More details about our data improvement activities in Switzerland are on our GitHub page<https://github.com/tomtom-international/open-data/issues/155>. Feel free to try out these challenges. Our team will also work on them in a couple of weeks. Let me know if you have any questions or comments. Have a nice day! Marjan - Hallo zusammen, ich bin Marjan von TomTom. Ich habe ein paar MapRoulette-Challenges, die ich gerne mit Ihnen teilen möchte. Sie können Ihnen helfen, verschiedene Arten von Datenfehler in der Schweiz zu lösen. Sie finden alle Challenges in diesem MapRoulette-Projekt<https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/49038>. Die Tasks in den Challenges wurden mit öffentlichen Instanzen von OSM-Qualitätssicherungstools wie Atlas und Osmose und intern entwickelten und validierten Qualitätsprüfungen erstellt. Sie können die Tasks der Reihe nach durchgehen, die Daten bewerten und bei Bedarf Qualitätsfehler korrigieren. (Wenn Sie ein falsches Positiv entdecken, können Sie es als "Kein Fehler" markieren.) Weitere Details zu unseren Aktivitäten zur Datenverbesserung in der Schweiz finden Sie auf unserer GitHub-Seite<https://github.com/tomtom-international/open-data/issues/155>. Probieren Sie die Challenges gerne aus. Unser Team wird sie in einigen Wochen auch bearbeiten. Lassen Sie mich wissen, wenn Sie Fragen oder Kommentare haben. Schönen Tag noch! Marjan - Bonjour, Je suis Marjan de TomTom. J'ai quelques défis MapRoulette que j'aimerais partager avec vous. Ces défis peuvent vous aider à résoudre différents types de problèmes de données en Suisse. Vous pouvez les trouver tous dans ce projet MapRoulette<https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/49038>. Les tâches des défis ont été générées à l'aide d'instances publiques d'outils d'assurance qualité OSM tels que Atlas et Osmose, et de contrôles de qualité développés et validés en interne. Vous pouvez parcourir les défis une tâche à la fois, évaluer les données et corriger les erreurs de qualité si nécessaire. (Si vous repérez un faux positif, vous pouvez le marquer comme tel.) Vous trouverez plus de détails sur nos activités d'amélioration des données en Suisse sur notre page GitHub<https://github.com/tomtom-international/open-data/issues/155>. Sentez-vous libre d'essayer ces défis. Notre équipe y travaillera aussi dans quelques semaines. Faites-moi savoir si vous avez des questions ou des commentaires. Bonne journée! Marjan

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Project of the Month (PotM) CH: Feuer- und Grillstellen | Fire and barbecue places | Foyers et barbecues
by Stefan Keller 10 Jul '22

10 Jul '22

Endlich Sommer - endlich wieder Grillieren! In diesem Projekt des Monats Schweiz (PotM CH) Juli 2022 geht es um die Erfassung von Feuer- und Grillstellen (outdoor) in OpenStreetMap (OSM). Als Änderung zählt das Hinzufügen oder Ändern von 1. leisure=firepit für Feuerstellen z.B. am Waldrand, 2. amenity=bbq für eine öffentliche Grillstelle sowie 3. fireplace=* z.B. mit tourism=picnic_site für Picknickplätze. Weitere Informationen zu diesem PotM gibt es im Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Project_of_the_month_Switzerland Und hier ist das Dashboard: https://potm.osm.ch/superset/dashboard/20/ -- en: Dear Mappers, Finally summer - finally barbecuing again! This project of the month Switzerland (PotM CH) July 2022 is about the recording of fire and barbecue places (outdoor) in OpenStreetMap (OSM). As a change counts the addition or modification of 1. leisure=firepit for fireplaces e.g. at the edge of the forest, 2. amenity=bbq for a public barbecue site as well as 3. fireplace=* e.g. with tourism=picnic_site for picnic sites. More information about this PotM can be found in the Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Project_of_the_month_Switzerland and here there is the dashboard: https://potm.osm.ch/superset/dashboard/21/ -- fr: Chers mappeurs, chères mappeuses, Enfin l'été - enfin à nouveau les grillades! Dans ce projet du mois de la Suisse (PotM CH) juillet 2022, il s'agit de saisir les emplacements pour feux et grillades (en plein air) dans OpenStreetMap (OSM). Par modification, on entend l'ajout ou la modification de 1. leisure=firepit pour les places de feu, par exemple en lisière de forêt, 2. amenity=bbq pour une place de gril publique ainsi que 3. fireplace=*, par exemple avec tourism=picnic_site pour les places de pique-nique. De plus amples informations sur ce PotM sont disponibles sur le Wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Project_of_the_month_Switzerland et ici c'est le dashboard: https://potm.osm.ch/superset/dashboard/21/ -- Stefan

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