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Didok check map
by Beni Buess 09 Jun '11

09 Jun '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi As Sarah requested :-) I made a map to help by checking stops after the Didok import. http://osm.xiala.net/didok-check/ If you have any suggestions on how to improve that, please let me know. At the moment the data is from geofabrik extract 8.6.2011. No automatic updates are implemented for now. There are still 12433 stops to check: http://osm.xiala.net/didok-check/statistics.html Good night Beni -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJN8AHIAAoJEOg6U/nfeJJMwccQAJj+DLRVJhtd+6i52l3wMIPZ vpPuK4uveId7czgqb4KxZnI3autXx9Dm0P9vHE+qlO4R59kRBkPGi5aF1IiAL9v7 D7Yy2v15MsbEqvCl7RYKWNm1/GQY5Lx8t6uWXg2jlEo1LU1qp4zga+IPiqHOWiAh S4kNl+ny2+0Baao66hSVnPc0DP/8A/UDmclJ5zcw+4WjTuszvbMFOxRiACYMIa1k dwWNEpRyBbC25+rMkQWNR+kEj5HaJkgUgVZoT4i58Yj68v2SJ7wE95KIxbr3q4Zt OLmMAXi+2SIbnqe8FMbVvFaieC/Hl6KSY57F+1Igww3S6vYKy/S7+NaA2jHZKY+z LzT4ejjqQqjVWQdlY2HDexKm5PT5Yj38RtvQ6ArkZrlMzDeUzK7OJgrUyULRitCy Rfo6S7oIQVeerI9T3YFsF2opPSwfXFym7UotjEal+IZ4Mrq/XEI0aygjJA7hy5d9 X6ggy3Iru2PjsblBCqfc3e5TAjYBBT/rFA2xNMpPeEob0uEf3RggA6sp6bqWNoNc j8xzCvoWFc4TcyCYV0vgYVhNSEH8xRkQTejS3HW5moAocAlt1Pvt8ZZ0W14UY5Df CAN4G60PsHiQYVXAch8Bdj41RWgd7CW6fTn0R0mqSkYyztOI8ufqV2RP4/ASrmzL gkd0ifNEmJ7OQenmRRw9 =C+2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [talk-ch] Taginfo Switzerland
by Beni Buess 08 Jun '11

08 Jun '11

----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 12:58:17AM +0200, Beni Buess wrote: > > I'm now working on something like a public transport API, which > > would make it possible to get data consolidated by the rules of the > > new public transport feature, but with respect to the situation, > > that there > > are thousands of stations with the "old" scheme. See some simple > > stats on this [1]. > > Sorry to jump on this, but I hope 'consolidation' doesn't mean > to mass retag things. I think this 'new' schema allows the 'old' > tags to co-exist, so just leave them be. I won't mass retag anything. I'm with you about the coexistence. By consolidation i basically mean inheriting values from the relations, since the new schema introduces some kind of hierarchy. i'll do some logic to get the uic_ref and uic_name from a stop_area relation for every stop_position that doesn't have this information. thats how some people are going to tag things to avoid redundancy in the osm db. but i need the uic_ref and uic_name to get the timetable information. > > Personally, I prefer the 'old' schema because the 'new' proposal > is about as simple and readable as a IEEE standard (or, if you > prefer these things: the German tax laws). I mean: two nodes and > one relation for a simple one way bus stop? Why? In 95% of cases > the 'old' schema will do the job just fine and your map proves that. one thing that is really cool about the new schema is this: if the routes are properly defined with the right stop_positions (not the stop_areas), it will be possible to display very detailed timetable information since the timetable data could be filtered by the route information to display just the next departs for the clicked stop_position and not the stop_area, that would be cool and really unique. if there is a stop_area relation, it would still be possible to display all the departs from zurich hb for example. have you ever searched the right stop position for a certain bus line in bern or zurich? > > > The API is not yet open for public use since I'm > > still experimenting with the DB scheme best suited. I've tried the > > scheme used by osm2pgsql, since it would then be easy to also render > > the data with mapnik, but it is not really suited for complex querys > > like all nodes/ways in the same stop_area as the given one. maybe i > > have to get some data redundant in the DB, just to speed things up > > and still be able to feed mapnik from it. But that would make the > > upgrade process more complicated, any ideas? > > Maybe you should have a look how I do the hiking map [1]. The > philosophy is basically to derive specialised database schemata > instead of using the one-size-fits-all version. This way you > get tables that are suitable for both rendering and fast online > queries. > > I solved that by deriving table from a osmosis planet database. > (There is the beginning of a framework [2] but really just the > beginning.) The advantage is that it has full updating support. > > Another library which has the same philosophy is imposm[3]. It > imports specialised schemata directly from a osm-file. It might > be a bit more mature, but there is no update-support. i'm sure going to look into your framework. thank you. > > > I'm going to try setting up a XAPI Switzerland using the new JXAPI > > code, doesn't seem to be too hard (at least I hope so). > > Cool. > > > > The challenge is to > > > maintain an up-to-date Swiss extract in the osmosis Postgresql DB. > > Do you think that would be a problem, is the available software > > (osmosis) not capable of doing this in a more or less automatic way > > without to much fiddling? Any hints? > > I would create an osmosis psql DB from the Swiss extract > and then use the planetary minute update to keep it up-to-date. > After each update the DB needs to be cropped to Swiss size. This > step actually needs some thinking but it should be possible. > (If you want to do it really well, you should write a special > osmosis task that takes a polygon as input and crops the > data already while updating the DB.) have you ever cropped by polygon and not by bbox? maybe it would also be possible to use postgres/postgis for this task. but then the data needs to get into the database first, which would not make it any faster i think. auch gruss beni

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Rencontre Cartographe-Amateur
by Frédéric Benninger 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

Bonjour, Est ce qu'il y a des amateurs pour organiser prochainement une petite rencontre vaudoise ou romande? Salutations Frédéric

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OSM-Stammtisch: Termin?
by Thomas Ineichen 07 Jun '11

07 Jun '11

Hallo zusammen, da der nächste 11. an einem Samstag ist, hier eine kleine Doodle-Umfrage: http://doodle.com/8ebkeh3ys4qkqhfp Die Abstimmung ist offen bis Donnerstag Nachmittag; Vorschläge für Treffpunkte bzw. Mapping-Aktivitäten werden gerne schon vorher hier entgegen genommen. :) Gruss, Thomas PS: Denkt daran, am 13. Juni ist Pfingstmontag.

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Schweizer Grenzen (War: openstreetmap und qgis)
by Stefan Keller 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Hallo Walter Am 5. Juni 2011 14:56 schrieb Walter Nordmann <walter.nordmann(a)web.de>: ... > Die OSM-Daten in QGIS als direkt als Layer zu verwenden, hat schon was. > Dann bräuchte ich hier nicht den Umweg über Shapes zu gehen: > > http://wnordmann.homeunix.com/images/stories/osm/forum/thomas1.png > > Die aktuellen Shapes UND POLY-Files mit und ohne Buffer dieser Länder gehen > demnächst wieder online. > > Gruss > Walter > > P.S. Die Schweizer sollten sich mal um ihre Boundaries kümmern; da sieht es > echt mau aus. Bei dieser mau-Schelte - was auch immer das heisst (:->) - solltest du aber uns Zürcher herausnehmen, da sehen die Grenzen doch wau(!) aus. LG, Stefan

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Re: [talk-ch] hiking map moves
by Sarah Hoffmann 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

Hi, thanks again to everybody who offered to help with the French translation. The French version is now online. Should anybody want to help with an Italian or Rumantsch version, please let me know. Sarah Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > Hi all, > > after the old server has become to small, the hiking map had to > move to another server. I have use the opportunity to give the > map a complete overhaul. The new map is now at http://hiking.lonvia.de > > There will no longer be a special Swiss version because there > wasn't really any difference with the world version. The old > URLs will continue to work but it would be nonetheless good, if > you could adapt your bookmarks and links. > > If you are using the tiles in your own maps, please note that > the new URL for tiles is http://tile.lonvia.de/hiking > > I am also looking for translation help for the map. It now > supports proper internationalisation and it would be really > cool to have it in all four official Swiss languages, although > for the moment I'd be already happy if somebody from the > Romand side could have a look at the French translation. > > So, if you are interested in helping, just write me an email. > > Sarah

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access, mal wieder
by Sarah Hoffmann 05 Jun '11

05 Jun '11

Hi, ich haette mal wieder zwei Fragen zu Verbotsschildern. Das eine ist 2.06 http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:CH-Vorschriftssignal-Verbot… Das Wiki sagt hier http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Road_Signs , dass das in Deutschland moped=no waere. Ist das in der Schweiz auch so oder waere das eher mofa=no? Zum anderen habe ich in Graechen ein "ausser Elektrofahrzeuge" entdeckt. Das ist wohl auch sehr schweizspezifisch. Taginfo schlaegt electric_car=yes vor. Passt das so? Dann wuerde ich das im Wiki ergaenzen. Gruss Sarah

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Swiss Public Transport Map
by Beni Buess 04 Jun '11

04 Jun '11

Hi Meet the new Swiss Public Transport Map: http://map.xiala.net This is currently just a proof of concept, more features should land in the coming weeks. I'd really like to get some feedback. Map Tiles are from openstreetmap.org Stations/Stops are from Cloudmade Geocoding API. Timetable Information via SBB API [1] from sbb.ch Does anybody know of a service to get all nodes of a relation, just like [2] without abusing the OSM API? [1] http://sbb.xiala.net [2] http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/88640/full Beni

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hiking map moves
by Sarah Hoffmann 02 Jun '11

02 Jun '11

Hi all, after the old server has become to small, the hiking map had to move to another server. I have use the opportunity to give the map a complete overhaul. The new map is now at http://hiking.lonvia.de There will no longer be a special Swiss version because there wasn't really any difference with the world version. The old URLs will continue to work but it would be nonetheless good, if you could adapt your bookmarks and links. If you are using the tiles in your own maps, please note that the new URL for tiles is http://tile.lonvia.de/hiking I am also looking for translation help for the map. It now supports proper internationalisation and it would be really cool to have it in all four official Swiss languages, although for the moment I'd be already happy if somebody from the Romand side could have a look at the French translation. So, if you are interested in helping, just write me an email. Sarah

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Status ODBL acceptance Switzerland
by Simon Poole 31 May '11

31 May '11

If you haven't been following the process a short summary (all numbers for Switzerland only): - from the top 100 mappers (pre May 2010) all but 4 have accepted the new contributor terms, 2 simply haven't decided yet, 1 has declined (however he has indicated that he is not really fundamentally opposed) and one is simply being difficult :-). - from the mappers between position 101 and 200, a total of 17 are missing, with 2 declines and the rest simply haven't decided yet, or haven't been reached (the current mailing hasn't addressed pre May 2010 mappers yet). - in total from the top 200 we are missing roughly 3 % from 86% on a last edit base, and from all edits (100%) roughly 8% - what I didn't expect at the beginning of the process is that we already have a "popular vote" majority (52%) despite a lot of the old and very small mappers not being easy to reach Simon

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