Hi there,
some weeks ago I started to contribute, first with the StreetComplete app, now I also by fixing some issues around the place I live. The flat I live in belongs to the ABZ cooperative, which has an annual contest for funding projects related to "living", see [1].
Since OSM has subprojects for supporting blind and people with disabilities, and delivery services rely on good mapping data, I would see OSM as a "living" related project (even without those subprojects).
More concretely I had the idea of submitting a project which would organize a contest (mainly among the members of the cooperative) to complete (possibly with the team feature of StreetComplete) as many quests as possible within a certain timeframe.
Do you think this would be feasible? Any other feedback?
Best regards, Tiziano
Maybe make contest based not on direct number of solved quests (what will encourage guessing without survey, sadly happens even without contests).
Maybe make contest based on number of days with mapping? Or some other metric less encouraging low-quality answers? Or just organize mapping without contest?
Mar 18, 2021, 11:15 by tm@dev-zero.ch:
Hi there,
some weeks ago I started to contribute, first with the StreetComplete app, now I also by fixing some issues around the place I live. The flat I live in belongs to the ABZ cooperative, which has an annual contest for funding projects related to "living", see [1].
Since OSM has subprojects for supporting blind and people with disabilities, and delivery services rely on good mapping data, I would see OSM as a "living" related project (even without those subprojects).
More concretely I had the idea of submitting a project which would organize a contest (mainly among the members of the cooperative) to complete (possibly with the team feature of StreetComplete) as many quests as possible within a certain timeframe.
Do you think this would be feasible? Any other feedback?
Best regards, Tiziano
[1] https://www.abz.ch/verantwortung/solidaritaetsfonds/ _______________________________________________ talk-ch mailing list talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch
That has also been one of my worries, with a contest there will be inevitably some who will try to cheat. Which would then require some sort of controlling, but people getting disqualified if cheating was discovered and simple analysis on user entries might already prevent a lot of spam.
Besides the contest, do you think the general concept of organizing a mapping day/week/weekend is something people might be interested?
On 3/18/21 11:40 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
Maybe make contest based not on direct number of solved quests (what will encourage guessing without survey, sadly happens even without contests).
Maybe make contest based on number of days with mapping? Or some other metric less encouraging low-quality answers? Or just organize mapping without contest?
Mar 18, 2021, 11:15 by tm@dev-zero.ch:
Hi there, some weeks ago I started to contribute, first with the StreetComplete app, now I also by fixing some issues around the place I live. The flat I live in belongs to the ABZ cooperative, which has an annual contest for funding projects related to "living", see [1]. Since OSM has subprojects for supporting blind and people with disabilities, and delivery services rely on good mapping data, I would see OSM as a "living" related project (even without those subprojects). More concretely I had the idea of submitting a project which would organize a contest (mainly among the members of the cooperative) to complete (possibly with the team feature of StreetComplete) as many quests as possible within a certain timeframe. Do you think this would be feasible? Any other feedback? Best regards, Tiziano [1] https://www.abz.ch/verantwortung/solidaritaetsfonds/ _______________________________________________ talk-ch mailing list talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch
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Hello,,
Le 18.03.21 à 12:09, Tiziano Müller a écrit :
do you think the general concept of organizing a mapping day/week/weekend is something people might be interested?
before the pandemic, mappy parties were common in some regions (sometimes monthly), this works well when people understand the concrete effect of the operation: for example, saying "let's add information on accessibility (blind or disabilities) works well if at the same time it is explained that "such and such an app makes it possible to use the data" or "we'll point out black spots to the municipality"
Regards, Marc
Mar 18, 2021, 12:09 by tm@dev-zero.ch:
That has also been one of my worries, with a contest there will be inevitably some who will try to cheat. Which would then require some sort of controlling, but people getting disqualified if cheating was discovered and simple analysis on user entries might already prevent a lot of spam.
Besides the contest, do you think the general concept of organizing a mapping day/week/weekend is something people might be interested?
from looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_parties and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapathon that document some tiny subsection of such events - answer seems yes
It probably highly depends on people that you are trying to attract, how you do this etc.
But I would recommend at least trying (as long as it is not blocked by COVID issues).
It may work nicely in combination with reporting black spots to local government (I am assuming that in Switzerland it is an useful activity and that there are still problematic spots fixable by local government but unknown to them).
Hi Tiziano
I can confirm what Mateusz and Marc said: Just try it.
I just want to add following infos : * At https://openschoolmaps.ch/pages/materialien.html there's a zip file at the botton containing an englisch version of "Mapping the Surroundings (... Yourself - Outdoor Mapping Event)". for instructors (like you :-) and participants. * Then, look e.g. at how the Writing Contest: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Burgen-Dossier_writing_contest_2020 where we just counted the changes in OSM.
Important for such a contest is, that a hashtag - like #CastleProject ) in the Wikimedia writing contest - is being consistently used (mainly as a changeset comment when adding to OSM)!
Yours, Stefan
Am Fr., 19. März 2021 um 12:14 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz@tutanota.com:
Mar 18, 2021, 12:09 by tm@dev-zero.ch:
That has also been one of my worries, with a contest there will be inevitably some who will try to cheat. Which would then require some sort of controlling, but people getting disqualified if cheating was discovered and simple analysis on user entries might already prevent a lot of spam.
Besides the contest, do you think the general concept of organizing a mapping day/week/weekend is something people might be interested?
from looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_parties and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapathon that document some tiny subsection of such events - answer seems yes
It probably highly depends on people that you are trying to attract, how you do this etc.
But I would recommend at least trying (as long as it is not blocked by COVID issues).
It may work nicely in combination with reporting black spots to local government (I am assuming that in Switzerland it is an useful activity and that there are still problematic spots fixable by local government but unknown to them). _______________________________________________ talk-ch mailing list talk-ch@openstreetmap.ch http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch
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