Hi all,
I am working on the map quality using https://www.keepright.at (as well as http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/) and encountered the "floating island" problem (ways not connected to the rest of the map). I came across one specific situation and can think of another:
1. The way is in a private garden and the only access would be "through" the house (physical entering through the main entrance and potentially entering a garden through a terrace door) like here: https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=19 https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=19&lat=47.55724&lon=7.6253&lay ers=B0T&ch=0%2C130&show_ign=0&show_tmpign=0 &lat=47.55724&lon=7.6253&layers=B0T&ch=0%2C130&show_ign=0&show_tmpign=0 2. I have not found a good example, but you can think of a park with limited access and entrance as well as exit are only possible through the building (e.g. a castle or museum where you pay a fee to access other areas).
Basic question: How to map that? I see one option for private ways: I would simply add "access=private" and any consistency checker could pick that up in the future ignoring "private" islands. For more public-like situations I am not so sure. Adding a highway=footway/tunnel=yes (+layer?) through the building? Adding properties at the end points of the way networks similar to amenity=parking_entrance (+creating a relation between these points)? Any suggestions?
Regards,
Kai
Hi Kai
You can model ways through buildings quite normally. I don't think you should add tunnel=yes, but indoor=yes or if it is a passage, you can use tunnel=building_passage https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel#tunnel.3Dbuilding_passage and of course add the appropriate access tags if it is private.
For publicly accessible parks (with or without a fee) the entrance through a house should be modelled. But for private stuff like your example, don't hesitate to mark it as a false positive and move on. There is no need, nor is it possible, to map all the private property details.
Michael
On 07/07/18 10:50, Kai Pankrath wrote:
Hi all,
I am working on the map quality using https://www.keepright.at (as well as http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/) and encountered the “floating island” problem (ways not connected to the rest of the map). I came across one specific situation and can think of another:
The way is in a private garden and the only access would be “through” the house (physical entering through the main entrance and potentially entering a garden through a terrace door) like here: https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=19&lat=47.55724&lon=7.6...
I have not found a good example, but you can think of a park with limited access and entrance as well as exit are only possible through the building (e.g. a castle or museum where you pay a fee to access other areas).
Basic question: How to map that? I see one option for private ways: I would simply add “access=private” and any consistency checker could pick that up in the future ignoring “private” islands. For more public-like situations I am not so sure. Adding a highway=footway/tunnel=yes (+layer?) through the building? Adding properties at the end points of the way networks similar to amenity=parking_entrance (+creating a relation between these points)? Any suggestions?
Regards,
Kai
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I suppose that at least one "ending" node of the path is a door/entrance/exit like maybe this one https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1785941555 it's maybe enough for a QA tool and for routing to : - connect this node to the building outer - add entrance and or door tag
the main issue is the lack of street imagery or the need of a survey.
Of course indoor mapping to connect this highway is better but it also need a survey or a local knowledge.
Le 07. 07. 18 à 11:24, michael spreng a écrit :
Hi Kai
You can model ways through buildings quite normally. I don't think you should add tunnel=yes, but indoor=yes or if it is a passage, you can use tunnel=building_passage https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel#tunnel.3Dbuilding_passage and of course add the appropriate access tags if it is private.
For publicly accessible parks (with or without a fee) the entrance through a house should be modelled. But for private stuff like your example, don't hesitate to mark it as a false positive and move on. There is no need, nor is it possible, to map all the private property details.
Michael
On 07/07/18 10:50, Kai Pankrath wrote:
Hi all,
I am working on the map quality using https://www.keepright.at (as well as http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/) and encountered the “floating island” problem (ways not connected to the rest of the map). I came across one specific situation and can think of another:
The way is in a private garden and the only access would be “through” the house (physical entering through the main entrance and potentially entering a garden through a terrace door) like here: https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=19&lat=47.55724&lon=7.6...
I have not found a good example, but you can think of a park with limited access and entrance as well as exit are only possible through the building (e.g. a castle or museum where you pay a fee to access other areas).
Basic question: How to map that? I see one option for private ways: I would simply add “access=private” and any consistency checker could pick that up in the future ignoring “private” islands. For more public-like situations I am not so sure. Adding a highway=footway/tunnel=yes (+layer?) through the building? Adding properties at the end points of the way networks similar to amenity=parking_entrance (+creating a relation between these points)? Any suggestions?
Regards,
Kai
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