Matthias Julius lists@julius-net.net writes:
Sarah Hoffmann lonvia@denofr.de writes:
I don't agree with that. Those "elaborate and long names" are there for a reason. In that particular case to distinguish parts of a route from the entire route. You should not just put "Aare Route" on a relation that only contains the part from Spiez to Meiringen because it is confusing for both mapper and map users. In fact, the notion
name=<route name> (<from>-<to>)
for a stage of the route is quite well established in OSM.
Well, having multiple objects with the same that belong together is quite well established also. Nobody gets confused by having a street made up from a number of segments sharing the same name. In the thread cited above is no mention of including "(<from>-<to>)" in the name and the wiki page does not (and did not) document that neither.
Anyway, you certainly have a point and I don't want to swim against the flow here. If this is common practice in other places, too, I can live with it.
And, if this is the consensus here it should be documented on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Switzerland/CycleNetwork#Recommended_t...
So, I have started to tidy things up a bit according to the above wiki page with the exception of the (<from>-<to>) parts (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8697787). So far I have just worked on ncn 1 (Rhone Route).
I still don't like those "elaborate and long names". If that information was in separate tags a data consumer can easily assemble the strings. The other way around it is harder. If someone decides to render the route names on a map it is ugly, IMHO. On a map it would be more useful to highlight the endpoints of each stage instead.
I have looked at cycle routes in UK (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_National_Cycle...) and Germany (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bicycle/Liste_aller_Relationen_mit_%22...). While there are some routes which have the endpoints in their names this does seem to be far from standard. I have not checked other places, though.
Therefore, I am interested in other opinions on this matter. So please, if you care one way or the other let me know.
Anyway, from next week on I will be on vacation for four weeks and probably won't be doing much work in that time. I will try to catch up with this list from now and then.
Matthias