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Hello,
Excellent resume, just some remarks.
Joerg a écrit :
datendelphin wrote:
How about this: we will tag it also as a cycle way, if it is shared use like 2.63. If it is no shared use, tag it with foot=no. Because the shared use is more frequent for all I know.
Absolutely not! A cycleway is a way marked with 2.60 and should be tagged as highway=cycleway IMO. Pedestrian are not allowed on those ways except when there is not trottoir. See http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_11/a40.html, http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/741_11/a40.html. In those cases they could be tagged as highway=cycleway,foot=yes for routing purposes.
Exactly ;-)
A way signed with 2.61 is a footway and should be tagged as highway=footway. Bicycles are usually not allowed except when there is an addition (under the sign) which allows them explicitly (like "Radfahren erlaubt". In those cases pedestrian have priority and cyclist have to slow down to pedestrian speed. Those rare cases should be tagged as highway=footway,bicycle=yes. BTW a lot of car drivers do not know that contrary to a real cycleway a cyclist does not have to use such a way and is allowed to use the "street" specially if he wants to be fast.
OK.
Ways signed with 2.63.1 are common foot- and cycleways without any segregation of pedestrian and cyclists. I would advise to tag them as highway=footway,bicycle=yes because in a conflict between cyclists and pedestrian usually the pedestrian gets priority. But of course highway=bicycle,foot=yes would be valid as well.
for me highway=bicycle,foot=yes is not so bad but it's wrong, some other possibility will be : highway=footway,bicycle=designated highway=path,foot=designated,bicycle=yes highway=path,foot=designated,bicycle=designated but a prefer highway=footway,bicycle=yes (= highway=path,foot=designated,bicycle=yes)
A way signed with 2.63 is a common foot- and cycleway with a segregation between cyclists and pedestrian (at least a painted line, sometimes a kerb stone). I would recommend to tag those as highway=cycleway,foot=yes to support the fact that on those ways a cyclist is not expected to find any pedestrian on "his" lane. And to separte this case from 2.63.1
I think that il should be one ot those: highway=footway,bicycle=designated highway=cycleway,foot=designated highway=path,foot=designated,bicycle=designated
To me complete all other way without sign should me tagged as highway=path.
and finally I think that your message should be added to this page : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:CH:Map_Features
CU Stéphane
Be aware that the table in http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_21/app2.html, http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/741_21/app2.html got mixed up, so that the correct signs are not immediately above the number in the cases of 2.61, 2.63 and 2.63.1
Jörg
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