Dear Markus,
I am not sure what a "real" name means when it comes to a water fountain - unless it happens to be artistic. Most fountain names I have seen (other than artistic ones) seem to have names linked to a nearby square, street or other landmark. The example above of "St Restitut Church fountain" was for a fountain located on the side of the lone Church in St. Restitut, France.
It seems to me that giving a concise descriptive name in the local language linked to a specific landmark follows the verifiability principal if other mappers (especially those on the ground and local) would always say the name given is fair and true. This being said, I will of course refrain from taking this liberty unless it is sanctioned as acceptable.
Best regards,
Stuart
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 21:11, Markus selfishseahorse@gmail.com wrote:
Is giving a descriptive name really not best practice in some
circumstances? For example if I invent a name for a fountain "St Restitut Church fountain", is this incorrect ?
Adding descriptive names would violate OSM's core principle of verifiability [1] [2] and would make it impossible to distinguish from real names.
Best regards
Markus
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 20:09, European Water Project europeanwaterproject@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Markus,
I agree it is clearer and will make that amendment and make sure it is
the same in the French version which we will publish in the next days. No one should feel the need to be inventive.
Is giving a descriptive name really not best practice in some
circumstances? For example if I invent a name for a fountain "St Restitut Church fountain", is this incorrect ?
Best regards,
Stuart
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, 13:18 Markus, selfishseahorse@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Stuart!
Thanks for adding amenity=fountain to the documentation. I would also
change
name = "the name you choose"
to
name = "name of the fountain" (if any)
or similar, because "the name you choose" may lead people to add a description (e.g. "Drinking fountain" or "Old fountain on the main square in Watertown") instead of the fountain name, if it has one. (For descriptions, the key description is used. If the fountain has no name, noname=yes can be added.)
Best regards
Markus
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 18:07, European Water Project europeanwaterproject@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Markus and Simon,
We have had many non-technical people read the instructions and have
reworked them significantly to make them more legible to individuals who have no knowledge of OSM or Wikimedia Commons. I am sure we will have to continue to improve them further.
If either of you have the energy to review them again, I would
greatly appreciate it.
Best regards,
Stuart
On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 22:31, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Markus,
Based on your suggestion, we will suggest when adding a drinking
fountains to for them to be tagged either 1) as amenity = drinking_water or 2 ) with two tags a) amenity = fountain and b) drinking_water = yes.
And for section 3) we will suggest that for editing a water fountain
that does not seem to have drinking quality water that the fountain should be designated with two tags a) amenity = fountain and b) drinking_water = no.
Thank you for your comments,
Stuart
On Sun, 15 Dec 2019, 22:05 Markus, selfishseahorse@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Stuart!
On the Wikimedia page you suggest adding drinking_water=yes to a drinking fountain (amenity=drinking_water). However, this is
redundant
as amenity=drinking_water already implies drinking_water=yes. [1]
[1]:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddrinking_water
By the way, you may also be interested in mapping amenity=fountain, i.e. decorative fountains, [2] as they often provide drinkable water too. Note that for amenity=fountain it makes sense to add drinking_water=yes/no.
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain
Regards
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