Am 02.07.2011 18:28, schrieb Simon Poole:
The wikimedia by-laws are definitely too complicated
That's your personal opinion. I don't think so. - General note: The more precise articles of association are, the less discussion and misunderstanding occur.
(there are far better examples for example /ch/open
Disagree as well on that one. IMHO they should mention registered office and business year, just as simple examples.
however all of these have the basic problem that you have to assume that they are copyrighted).
Of course you can't just copy &paste . Thus, you approach to take the kmu.admin.ch proposal seems reasonable. And, at the very end of the day, it has to be in line with Swiss Civil Code, Art. 60 et seqq ( http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/210/indexni2.html#id-ni2-ni6-ni8 and for German language speakers: ZGB, Art. 60 ff -> http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/210/index1.html#id-1-2-2 ). only.
As I wrote, I'm basing the draft on the kmu.admin.ch templates with minimal changes, the templates are up date (include the 2005 OR changes) and are really simple.
Could you point us to the web site your proposal is under way? Thus, we all might give our inputs and thoughts.
Anyhow, thx for your efforts. :-)
cheeerio, hugi
Simon
Am 02.07.2011 17:01, schrieb Andreas Bürki:
As I'm working as well on articles of association (aka bylaws) for an other F/OSS project here in Switzerland, the stuff of Wikimedia CH association was quite useful to me:
** http://www.wikimedia.ch/Bylaws
** http://www.wikimedia.ch/Tax (tax deductibility)
Pros of these mentioned pages and wiki in general:
- No need to invent the wheel, it's square :-) (objectives of
associations are more or less the same, just some details may differ)
- 4 languages (just need to define the legally ruling language, e.g.
Swiss German language, others define as "informal" or "for better understanding")
- Public debate possible on talk pages of wiki
Just my 2 cents!
Andreas aka hugi
Example extract of my English wiki page: == Introduction == Following draft is based up: KMU portal of the office of the secretary of state for economics SECO, column KMU topics association - [http://www.kmu.admin.ch/themen/00614/00656/00690/index.html?lang=de Verein - Musterstatuten für Verein] (German language only, sorry :-( ).
'''You are cordially invited for cooperation. :-)'''
'''Note: This wiki page is based onto German language version!''' - This exception is due to the fact, that English is in Switzerland not an official language of the Swiss Administration.
== Articles of association == '''XYZ association''' in [Place]
== Art. 1 - Name, registered offices and business year == # Under the name "'''XYZ association'''" - referred to hereafter as "Association" - exists an Association, established as legal entity according to Swiss law, [http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/210/indexni2.html#id-ni2-ni6-ni8 Swiss Civil Code, Art. 60 et seqq.].