Hi,
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:03:10PM +0200, Beni Buess wrote:
Hi
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 01:20:43PM +0200, Beni Buess wrote:
Hi
Most Bus Stations/Lines in Switzerland are operated by PAG (PostAuto Schweiz AG). At the 10th of June 2011 User xylome did a mass edit (1) on 650 nodes and 79 relations to change PAG => PostAuto Schweiz AG in different languages. This was done on a bounding box which covers almost whole Switzerland. The remaining 10000 nodes with operator=PAG were somehow missed. Is there any explanation of this action?
The PAG obviously comes from the Didok Import. With a few exceptions, operator contains always an acronym. (2)
What do we consider the right value? It would make sense to have the values consistent IMHO.
xylome is the maintainer of the xybot. I contacted him on the 10th about the problem with the betreiber tag. He promised to revert the changes but he felt that acronyms are not proper for an OSM tag. I explained that changing the tag to PostAuto AG would break consistency but apparently he didn't care. Instead, he seems to have decided to also change also stops previously untouched by xybot. Excellent.
Personally, I don't care if there are acronyms or full names in the operator tag. But I totally agree with you that consistency is important. If there is a strong agreement with xylome that operator tags should contain the full name then I can do another mass edit using the DidokImport user. Otherwise we should revert xylomes changes.
I suggest to revert the changeset. I'm all for consistency, *if* we want full names in the operator tag, we should do this for all (public transport) operators IMHO. This would lead to some discussion on how to name them in detail and then we can prepare a mass edit for *all* stops, not just a few hundered and leaving the operator tag in a inconsistent state.
Is anybody against reverting? I'll do it saturday, if nobody is against it. then we would have a consistent state again and can decide carefully about a possible mass edit.
A few days ago, I was about to suggest to compromise and for now only rename the stops with operator=PAG, but then I realised that that means that we have to decide if it should be PostAuto AG or CarPostale or whatever. The acronym has the advantage that it is more or less language independent. So, yes, go ahead.
Sarah (who is actually very grateful if she doesn't need to do it, remind me to buy you a beer at the next Stammtisch)