Hi Thomas
Thomas Ineichen wrote:
The Signalisationsverordnung[1] states in Article 33[2]:
states:
"Andere Strassenbenützer [als Fussgänger bzw. Reiter] sind auf Fuss- und Reitwegen nicht zugelassen." So bridleways and (signposted) footways are for the correspondent group only.
You're absolutely right with this. And I actually didn't know/consider it.
For foot ways, things are not so clear. I think, usually ways which have a ban of driving sign (the red circle, white center sign) are tagged as foot ways.
I normally tag such ways as highway=track|path and vehiecle=no (this scheme is also mentioned in the Wiki as the favoured way). To me, footways need to have a blue sign..
It wasn't clear to me. Perhaps this should be added to the swiss map features. I also think that there are a lot of wrongly tagged ways out there in that case. Those blue signs are quite scarce, except in parallel to some bigger streets. But I see lots of cycle and foot ways on their own. I don't know if this issue has been discussed already. For example in my area there are a few non-numbered cycle routes (just marked with the destinations) And I found it quite nice when those were tagged as cycleway, because they are drawn differently on the map.
Stéphane Brunner, you changed bicycle=no for footways to bicycle=yes. Why? What footways do you have in mind where cycling is allowed? IMHO cycling is not allowed there.
What I ask myself:
The Signalisationsverordnung only makes a clear statement about foot- and bridleways. It says nowhere that pedestrians are not allowed on cycleways. Nevertheless, the sign 2.60[3] (Radweg) is normally used to sign a way that should only be used by cyclists. Furthermore, there is a sign 2.63 (gemeinsamer Rad- und Fussweg). Where is the rule, that cycleways are only for cyclists? Otherwise, 2.63 would not be needed..
Well I wouldn't care too much in the case, that only ways signaled with those blue signs should be tagged as cycle/foot ways, because they usually only appear in parallel to some bigger road. And, quite frequently, pedestrians share the cycleway. How about this: we will tag it also as a cycle way, if it is shared use like 2.63. If it is no shared use, tag it with foot=no. Because the shared use is more frequent for all I know. But if this site should reflect the actually used tagging, then it definitely should say yes to pedestrians and horses on cycleways.
Grüsse, yours Datendelphin
Gruss, Thomas
[1] http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_21/index.html [2] http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_21/a33.html [3] http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/741_21/app2.html
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