I highly agree to have an early and full participation on the association's bylaws. To my perception english seems to be the lingua franca here - I will give it a go and translate Simon's german draft to english then which allows us having a joint work in progress.
Marc
On 05.07.2011, at 09:26, Sarah Hoffmann wrote:
I'm not talking about the final version. I just think that should we draft and discuss the AoA in a language that is understood by most. German isn't and Google Translate can get you only so far.
I'll try a French translation based on the template tonight.
Sarah
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 09:27:13AM +0200, Simon Poole wrote:
Sarah
The French template is here: http://www.kmu.admin.ch/themen/00614/00656/00690/index.html?lang=fr
We will have to decide at one point in time on which language version is the official one.
Simon
Am 05.07.2011 08:23, schrieb Sarah Hoffmann:
Simon,
do you have an English translation (or French, if that is what you can get from the KMU portal)? Resp. should somebody else take care of that? German isn't really well understood further West. And I think it is really important that we do that together.
Otherwise, looks good to me.
Sarah
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:52:59PM +0200, Simon Poole wrote:
Am 02.07.2011 20:06, schrieb Andreas Bürki:
Am 02.07.2011 18:28, schrieb Simon Poole:
The wikimedia by-laws are definitely too complicated
That's your personal opinion. I don't think so. - General note: The more precise articles of association are, the less discussion and misunderstanding occur.
The wikimedia bylaws introduce a number of concepts not required by law, and restate a lot of things that are -already- completely satisfactory defined in law.
If I could wager a bet, I would put my money on that the articles were either wrote by a lawyer with anglo-saxon background or to satisfy one.
(there are far better examples for example /ch/open
Disagree as well on that one. IMHO they should mention registered office and business year, just as simple examples.
They do state the business year and it is completely legal not to state a place of business. If it has no undesirable consequences (I can't think of any at the current time) it avoids having to have a general assembly and change the bylaws every time the kind soul who does the administration moves.
Anyway my proposal is here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Bylaws_Swiss_OSM_Association_-_Germ...
Simon
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