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AGIS 2017 Orthofotos
by Simon Poole 04 Sep '17

04 Sep '17

Die diesjährigen AGIS Orthofotos für den Kanton Aargau sind jetzt anscheinend vorhanden. Der zeitliche Abstand zu denen von 2016 ist klein, ein Bezug könnte aber doch sinnvoll sein, da durch den 2 Jahresrhythmus in denen wir sie bezogen haben, wir jetzt immer Bilder von Befliegungen im Sommer bekommen haben. Im Gegensatz dazu sind die Bilder von diesem Jahr Ende März entstanden und zeigen Waldwege etc natürlich sehr gut. Die Bilder sieht man auch auf dem AGIS Kartenportal https://www.ag.ch/app/agisviewer4/v1/agisviewer.html Meinungen dazu? Simon PS: kleine Ausschnitte kann man auch direkt kostenlos bestellen, finde ich selber aber eher unpraktisch.

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OSM-Stammtisch Zürich: 11. September
by Patrick Staehlin 04 Sep '17

04 Sep '17

Salut! Der nächste OSM-Stammtisch in Zürich findet in einer Woche zur üblichen Zeit am üblichen Ort statt: Datum: Montag, 11. September 2017 Zeit: ab 18:30 Uhr Ort: ETH-Hauptgebäude, drinnen zwischen bQm und ETH-Mensa Karte, weitere Infos und (unverbindliche) Anmeldung: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen#8… Gruss Packi

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Re: [talk-ch] Pls, don't delete sidewalks, visual impaired people might use them
by Selfish Seahorse 03 Sep '17

03 Sep '17

Hi everyone, it seems there is a misunderstanding: I've only removed separate footways besides streets that were already tagged with sidewalk=* (or added a sidewalk=* key to the road and removed the sidewalk where I noticed a problem), following the recommendations on the wiki. I've not deleted a single sidewalk information. (The same is true for the terrace of the restaurant: I've removed the wrong biergarten - according to the wiki, a biergarten is 'an open-air area where beer is served and you are allowed to bring your own food' - and added outdoor_seating=yes to the restaurant. Furthermore, because it is the same restaurant, 'One feature, one OSM element' applies here.) @Andreas Bürki: Next time, please check the facts before accusing someone of 'doing some nasty work'. (I'll take 'Mr cleaner' as a compliment for doing clean-up work. :-)) As for the discussion sidewalk=* vs footway: I think it is most important that the mapping is done consistently - at least for a single locality - to prevent confusion for map users, and that regional decisions are well documented on the wiki to prevent misunderstandings and extra work for mappers. In my opinion, it makes sense to follow the recommendations on the wiki - i.e. 'to map the sidewalk as property on the street if the sidewalk is just attached with a kerb and not separated by a road verge or other barriers' - because of: * Routing: Separately mapped sidewalks break any straightforward routing on streets that can be crossed anywhere (especially in living areas). * GPS: GPS receivers are generally not enough precise to determine if someone is either on the street, on the left sidewalk or on the right sidewalk. * Simplicity: It is easier to map and to maintain. And no information is lost. Also, please bear in mind that a map always is a simplification. * Clarity: for map users And I don't see any disadvantages - why should blind people prefer separate footways over sidewalk=*? Isn't it easier to produce narrative directions with sidewalk=* keys? Besides, sidewalk:*:tactile_paving tags can be added to roads too. Kind regards, SelfishSeahorse ---- 'Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher.' -Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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problème https://overpass-turbo.osm.ch/
by marc marc 03 Sep '17

03 Sep '17

Bonjour, runtime error: open64: 2 No such file or directory /srv/overpass.osm.ch/db/way_changelog.bin File_Blocks::File_Blocks::1 est-ce utile de poster ici ou faut-il trouver la bonne personne en privé ?

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Pls, don't delete sidewalks, visual impaired people might use them
by Andreas Bürki 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

Hello Have noticed, there is a "sidewalk cleaner" under way doing some nasty work in Berne. Please Mr. Cleaner, don't do that. There is a reason for sidewalks mapped beside of the street: Visual impaired people, so called blind people. In a long run, highway:footway and highway:footway + footway:sidewalk will serve as basis for a map for visual impaired people. Thx for your cooperation and understanding. cheeers, h. -- Andreas Bürki abuerki(a)anidor.com S/MIME certificate - SHA-256 fingerprint: 8A:1A:C2:93:10:4B:CE:91:2C:80:79:44:24:1D:38:CA:EE:0E:89:C9:A5:A4:A0:03:FF:5A:FB:D1:15:18:B5:45 GnuPG - GPG fingerprint: 5DA7 5F48 25BD D2D7 E488 05DF 5A99 A321 7E42 0227

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Warenausgabe
by amilopowers＠u-cloud.ch 31 Aug '17

31 Aug '17

Hallo Zusammen Weiss jemand wie man eine Warenausgabe, z.B von OBI, Micasa etc. tagt? Ich wurde da im Wiki nicht fündig. Gruss Ueli ---- Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.ch), encrypted email based in Switzerland.

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Re: [talk-ch] Hydranten mit Namen, Referenz und fire_hydrant:ref=*
by marc marc 30 Aug '17

30 Aug '17

Typo dans le lien https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant_Extensio… Le 30. 08. 17 à 16:23, Marc M. a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Le 30. 08. 17 à 15:06, David Haberthür a écrit : >> POI+ diese 'falsch' erfasst. > est-ce que l'application a été corrigée ? > >> Ich weiss nicht, ob alle Edits von mir sind, aber >> - hier sind alle Hydranten mit einem Namen ohne Referenz: >> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/rmd und > Il est facile avec josm de changer le tag name en ref > Dans josm, télécharger depuis overpass, ctrl-a, double-clic > sur le nom le tag "name" et remplacer par "ref" > Mais je ne connais pas de moyen simple de supprimer > le mot hydrant pour garder uniquement la référence > >> - hier sind alle Hydranten mit einem Namen und Referenz: >> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/rmi > C'est facile avec josm de supprimer le tag "name" > Mais je ne connais pas de moyen de comparer facilement > la clef "name" avec la clef "ref" > >> PS: Europaweit gibt es einige Hydranten mit `fire_hydrant:ref` UND >> `ref`, der allergrösste Teil davon in Bern, ganz wenige in Hamburg ein >> paar in Berlin und einen in Östereich: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/rmm > Oui, idem que le point précédent. > > Il y a aussi une proposition d'amélioration en cours de discussion > sur la mailing tag mondiale > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant_Extensio… > n'est pas encore définitive, la discussion est en cours. > > Cordialement, > Marc

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harmonisation toilets:wheelchair
by marc marc 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Hello, I want to fix 2 types of anomalies related to "toilets:wheelchair" 1) 118 yes / no values for the tag wheelchair_toilet There is no tag with this name on the wiki, the correct spelling is toilets:wheelchair 2) 168 value "unknown" without interest. Indeed without a toilets:wheelchair tag, the presence of toilet accessible to wheelchairs is already unknown. After searching, it was obviously a bug on wheelpmap.org that added the unknown status when a user did not fill in all the fields. This bug seems fixed because I haven't seen a recent case. I 'll make 2 changeset to have a description for each reason. I 'll use overpass and josm find to do it. I 'll repeat it if new anomalies reappear, trying to seek why and to talk with their mapper. Thank you for your opinion Regards, Marc

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Open Tourism Data Hackdays, 27. und 28. Oktober 2017, Arosa
by Stefan Keller 28 Aug '17

28 Aug '17

Liebe Mapper Unten leite ich einen interessanten Eventhinweis weiter. Die Open Tourism Data Hackdays werden vom Verein OpenData organisiert und SOSM (der Schweizer OpenStreetMap Verein) und ich (HSR) helfen da auch mit. Es wird u.a. auch eine "Mappingparty" geben. Reserviert euch das Datum - weitere Infos werden noch folgen. :Stefan -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Jetzt registrieren: MAKE Open Tourism Data Hackdays Am 27. und 28. Oktober 2017 erwarten wir euch - Entwickler/innen, Designer/innen, Touristen/innen, Tourismusbegeisterte und Interessierte – in Arosa und entwickeln mit offenen Daten gemeinsam innovative Ideen für den Tourismus der Zukunft. Es steht das Sport- und Kongresszentrum in Arosa als Veranstaltungsort des Hackdays zur Verfügung. Übernachten werden wir im Hotel Sunstar, welches ca. 15 Gehminuten entfernt ist. Hackday-Tickets gibt es ab 10 CHF inkl. Verpflegung und Übernachtung im Mehrbettzimmer. Und die SBB schenkt allen Teilnehmenden einen 35 CHF Gutschein für die Anreise mit dem Zug. Bekanntlich verfolgen wir mit offenen Daten 3 übergeordnete Ziele: Transparenz, Innovation und Effizienz. Während wir uns mit den Election Hackdays im 2015 der Transparenz und mit den Energy Hackdays im 2016 der Effizienz gewidmet haben, dreht sich in diesem Herbst alles um Innovation – genauer gesagt um Innovation im Bereich Tourismus. Weitere Infos und Anmeldung zur Veranstaltung findet ihr auf https://tourism.opendata.ch ------

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Edits in Fribourg
by Simon Poole 28 Aug '17

28 Aug '17

Could somebody local have a look at these edits https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cadastre%20Fribourg ? Not being "official" is defintely not a reason to remove information from OSM and given the name of the user they may be using external sources for the edits. Simon

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Use of map.geo.admin.ch
by Simon Poole 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

I've just been pointed to a series of edits (organized by a very large and well known Swiss company) that have used material from map.geo.admin.ch for edits in OSM. These edits will naturally be reverted, but it would be better if people would not create additional work for the already overloaded DWG. To repeat: map.geo.admin.ch and and SwissTopo WMS services are completely off limits for any use in OSM. Even those SwissTopo datasets that have a "free" licence are not openly licensed and cannot be used without special explicit permission. Simon

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Wochennotiz Nr. 369 08.08.2017–14.08.2017
by Wochennotizteam 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 369 mit vielen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap-Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/08/wochennotiz-nr-369/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen!

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Larger removal of street and place names derived from the GWR
by Simon Poole 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

The OSMF Data Working Group has removed roughly 9'000 street and 1'000 place names from the Swiss OSM dataset, because there is very good reason to believe that they had been derived from address data from the GWR (https://www.housing-stat.ch/) which at the time was not legal for us to use and currently has the same status, more on that later. Most affected is likely French-speaking and central Switzerland and naturally mainly such names that are not easily surveyable (which is why they were missing in the first place). Nothing was removed in the Canton Berne as the GWR data for there is essentially the same as the cantonal address data that we have access too. The best course of action is simply to get off that couch and go out and survey as far as possible what was "lost", it should be possible from comparing http://qa.poole.ch/ch-roads/list-2017-08-01.html with http://qa.poole.ch/ch-roads/list-2017-08-04.html to determine how much your local area has been affected. Quickly back to the current situation with the GWR. As you may know on July the 1st the revised GWR ordinance entered in to force, unluckily it seems that I was right in being skeptical in http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/41672 as, as it seems now, the main effect of the revision seems to have been to open up new business opportunities for SwissTopo but even that will not happen before 2020. All in all this means that until further notice use of the GWR address data on both the SwissTopo WMS server and map.geo.admin.ch (and most other data there) is completely off limits. Naturally additional political pressure on the federal counsel to live up to their announcement https://www.admin.ch/gov/de/start/dokumentation/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-6… with real instead of Fake-OpenData is more than welcome. Simon

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cantonal road number
by marc marc 12 Aug '17

12 Aug '17

Hello, It doesn't seem to exist an uniform way for cantonal road number. Vaud uses rcrc_ref (rcrc for règlement sur la classification des routes cantonales) but it seems to be Vaud specific. For Fribourg, I didn't find the corresponding term and use reg_ref:CH:FR I didn't find any national tagging schema nor in wiki nor in taginfo. ref is already used for national road number. For example, national road no 1 between Domdidier and Avenches have a cantonal number of 3400 in the Fribourg part and 601a in Vaud part. Have you already tag a cantonal road number ? witch tag ? What do you think of harmonizing this ? A format like reg_ref:CH:AB where AB is the cantonal code in 2 letters ? something else ? Or maybe it has no interest considering most important missing things ? Regards, Marc

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Re: [talk-ch] missing ref for highway=tertiary
by marc marc 12 Aug '17

12 Aug '17

I survey the tertiary road again : no number on destination sign for this road (but I found funny error on destination sign) destination sign is in white -> according with https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/Map_Features highway=tertiary is correct I found a few signs with the cantonal number on it. https://framadrop.org/r/_KD5JAHger#I9iId8pwbfXStxivazTLu9KRYEmnVwbdRfu7uIkl… FR for Fribourg 2510 for the cantonal number 25 for the sign number (it seem to be in increments of 25) 11 B : no idea, 2 others are empty. Another has 4.0 So as I found the cantonal number by survey, I may add it to osm. But I didn't find any previous tag used for that in Fribourg nor in the whole country in taginfo rcrc seems to be specific to the canton of Vaud So I temporary put it as reg_ref:CH:FR for regional ref, Swiss, Fribourg It is maybe not the best choice. I'll start a new thread to discuss a common way to do this across the country. Le 27. 07. 17 à 00:39, Marc M. a écrit : > Thanks Remi, I found the same for Fribourg. > https://www.fr.ch/spc/fr/pub/documentation/cartes_du_reseau_routier.htm > I check the cantonal number for a road that already have this > information in osm, it is not the same :-( > ref is the number on traffic sign, ok > rcrc_ref is not the Fribourg cantonal number, it is the Vaud cantonal > number when the road reach Vaud a few km away. > I'll survey both roads again. > > Thanks also Michael. I know this road sign for the primary roads. > I 'll check if a road sign for traffic using this road, give a number or > not and if the color is blue or white as found on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/Map_Features > > Regards, > Marc > > Le 25. 07. 17 à 16:21, michael spreng a écrit : >> Hi >> >> I think you can safely ignore this complaint. There are routes which do >> not have a relevant ref. A relevant ref would be one known by drivers >> and which is occasionally written on signage along the road. Like the >> number 1 along the Zürich-Bern primary road. >> See https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/nYU2N_G00nLjo7ELbOF30g for an >> example of such signage. >> >> Michael >> >> On 24/07/17 19:19, marc marc wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Josm signale qu'il manque une ref sur un highway=tertiary. >>> J'ai vérifié chaque morceau de cette route, aucune ref. >>> Où puis-je le trouver ? >>> >>> Josm complaint that there is no ref for a highway=tertiary. >>> I check all part of it, no ref at all. >>> Where can i find it ? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Marc

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DINAcon HACKnight 20. Oktober 2017 Bern - Bitte weiterleiten
by Andreas Bürki 08 Aug '17

08 Aug '17

Salut Angedacht ist eine HACKnight an der DINAcon[1] zu organisieren. Wobei Art und Weise - locker was zusammen hacken oder eher Hackathon[2] mässig - noch nicht feststeht. Ebenso ist das Thema - Zwei Themenkreise stehen zur Auswahl - derzeit nicht festgelegt. Was definiert ist, sind Ort, Datum und Beginn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Idee / Vorschlag* mit Bitte um Fedback Ort: DINAcon, Welle 7 Bern (beim Bahnhof) Datum / Uhrzeit: Freitag, 20. Oktober 2017 ab 18 Uhr bis...? Ideen Thema: (1) LoRa / IoT / TTN The Things Network / Open Network*[3]-[7] * Von der "Grossen Idee" über Code Snippets und Patches zum Schreiben von Dokumentationen, Anleitungen, Policies etc. ist Alles denkbar. Nicht zu Vergessen: FOSS, Security und Privacy soll Leitgedanke sein, quasi Must. (2) Blockchain + Irgendwas-Coin*[8]-[10] * Ditto Thema (1) Teilnehmer: Hacker, Coder, Macher, Texter, Übersetzer, Ideenbrünzler, you name it :-) Anmerkung: Kostenlos für Teilnehmer, inklusive Food & Beverage (ClubMate & Co) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Welches Thema soll's den sein? Weitere Fragen oder Anregungen? Bitte Feedback innert nützlicher Frist (5-10 Tage oder besser früher) direkt an team(a)dinacon.ch Danke für Feedback und Weiterleiten an mögliche Interessierte. :-) cheeeers, h., h. Links: [1] https://dinacon.ch/ [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackathon [3] https://dinacon.ch/sessions/ttn/ - The road to open networks: building an open and free Internet of Things network [4] https://dinacon.ch/sessions/ttn-professionell/ - Community basiertes Drahtlosnetzwerk für das Internet der Dinge professionell nutzen? [5] https://www.lora-alliance.org/ [6] https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/community/zurich/ [7] https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/community/bern/ [8] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain [10] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Kryptowährungen -- Andreas Bürki abuerki(a)anidor.com S/MIME certificate - SHA-256 fingerprint: 8A:1A:C2:93:10:4B:CE:91:2C:80:79:44:24:1D:38:CA:EE:0E:89:C9:A5:A4:A0:03:FF:5A:FB:D1:15:18:B5:45 GnuPG - GPG fingerprint: 5DA7 5F48 25BD D2D7 E488 05DF 5A99 A321 7E42 0227

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Wochennotiz Nr. 367 25.07.2017–31.07.2017
by Wochennotizteam 05 Aug '17

05 Aug '17

Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 367 mit vielen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap-Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/08/wochennotiz-nr-367/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen!

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OSM-Stammtisch Zuerich am Freitag, 11. August 2017, in Winterthur
by Manfred Stock 03 Aug '17

03 Aug '17

Hallo zusammen, der nächste OSM-Stammtisch Zuerich findet naechste Woche zur üblichen Zeit in *Winterthur* bei der futureLAB AG statt. Wir sind unweit des Bahnhofs im Roten Turm, im 17. Stock - sollte der Haupteingang bei etwas spaeterer Ankunft bereits geschlossen sein, einfach auf unsere Festnetznummer (+41 52 260 22 22) anrufen, wir holen euch dann ab. Wir wuerden die Verpflegung offerieren, sowie Grill und Terasse zur Verfuegung stellen. Damit wir die Verpflegung organisieren koennen, waeren wir froh um baldige Anmeldung gemaess Informationen im Wiki [1]. Datum: Freitag, 11. August 2017 Zeit: ab 18:30 Uhr Ort: futureLAB AG, Theaterstrasse 17 in Winterthur, im 17. Stock [2] Link zur Karte, weitere Infos und Anmeldung befinden sich auch im Wiki [1]. Gruss Manfred [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen#… [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1610795680

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Wochennotiz Nr. 366 18.07.2017–24.07.2017
by Wochennotizteam 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 366 mit vielen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap-Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/07/wochennotiz-nr-366/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen!

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missing ref for highway=tertiary
by marc marc 26 Jul '17

26 Jul '17

Hello, Josm signale qu'il manque une ref sur un highway=tertiary. J'ai vérifié chaque morceau de cette route, aucune ref. Où puis-je le trouver ? Josm complaint that there is no ref for a highway=tertiary. I check all part of it, no ref at all. Where can i find it ? Regards, Marc

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Re: [talk-ch] missing ref for highway=tertiary
by Rémi Bovard 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Salut Marc, Tell me if it helps you: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qAT Best regards, Rémi

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Re: [talk-ch] Address on POI inside a building with address
by Rémi Bovard 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Salut Marc, Hallo Stefan, Thank you both of you for your answers, it conforts me in my idea to avoid duplicate informations. I'll continue to map this way, but not neceesary undo some other people edits. For the rendering, it was just a remark about this case. But I think this issue is more global and outside my competences. Best regards, Rémi

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problème changeset 50360860
by marc marc 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

Pour info, il y a un problème important avec ce changeset Il a touché 2667 nodes dont certains sont déplacés sans raison. J'ai aperçu cela dans le canton de Fribourg. J'ai demandé au contributeur d'analyser ce qui s'est passé. En attendant il serrait prudent d'analyser l'étendue des dégâts There is a significant problem with this changeset It affected 2667 nodes, some of which are wrongly moved. I see somes in Fribourg. I asked the contributor to analyze what happened. Meanwhile it would be prudent to analyze the extent of the damage

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Re: [talk-ch] qa.poole.ch improvement [was: addr:housenumber building⁼garage]
by marc marc 22 Jul '17

22 Jul '17

Simon what do you think about this idea ? Le 16. 06. 17 à 12:29, Marc M. a écrit : > There is the noaddress=yes tag (low usage) > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noaddress > > Edit of the wiki page made on May 6 by Dcapillae give the impression > that the tool already used it > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Qa.poole.ch_(QA_tool) > > It would be useful that qa tool use it. For example > dashed red for unsigned=yes on building in red right now > dashed orange for unsigned=yes on building in orange right now > blank for (EDIT) noaddress=yes > > Regards, > Marc > > Le 15. 06. 17 à 23:20, Simon Poole a écrit : >> I don't believe there is an established tag for the absence of an >> address currently. If there is, there would be no issue in supporting it. >> >> Simon >> >> >> Am 15.06.2017 um 22:37 schrieb marc marc: >>> Bonsoir, >>> >>> English version below >>> >>> en zone rurale, il est fréquent d'avoir un building⁼garage physiquement >>> séparé du building=house. Si on ajoute addr:housenumber sur la maison, >>> qa.poole.ch signale à juste titre que le garage n'a pas d'adresse même >>> si celui-ci est marqué avec noaddress=yes. >>> Quel est la meilleur façon de lier le garage à l'adresse de la maison >>> concernée ? >>> >>> In rural area, it is common to have a building⁼garage that is physically >>> separated from the building=house. when tag addr:housenumber on the >>> house, qa.pole.ch correctly points out that the garage has still no >>> address even if it is marked with noaddress=yes. >>> What is the best method to link the garage to the address of the related >>> house ? >>> >>> ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317094370 >>> >>> Cordialement, >>> Regards, >>> Marc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk-ch mailing list >>> talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ch mailing list >> talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >> http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch >> >

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TTN Mapper
by Andreas Bürki 20 Jul '17

20 Jul '17

Hello Nice use case http://ttnmapper.org/ cheeers, h. -- Andreas Bürki abuerki(a)anidor.com S/MIME certificate - SHA-256 fingerprint: 8A:1A:C2:93:10:4B:CE:91:2C:80:79:44:24:1D:38:CA:EE:0E:89:C9:A5:A4:A0:03:FF:5A:FB:D1:15:18:B5:45 GnuPG - GPG fingerprint: 5DA7 5F48 25BD D2D7 E488 05DF 5A99 A321 7E42 0227

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