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Stammtisch Zürich 20. September und weitere Termine bis Ende Jahr
by Patrick Stählin 10 Sep '22

10 Sep '22

Salut! Auch wenn Stefan gestern schon eine Mail verschickt hatte, hier nochmals eine mit etwas mehr Informationen: Wir haben die Daten für die nächsten Stammtische und Veranstaltungen etwas angepasst (das Wiki[1] ist meist schneller aktualisiert). Da es ein paar Events gibt die nächsten Monate haben wir die Stammtisch-Termine auf diese verschoben. Besonders hervorheben möchte ich den 17. November wo wir mit unserem Jahresend-Fondue auch das 10 Jährige bestehen der Swiss OpenStreetMap Association (Verein SOSM) feiern wollen. Details folgen, markiert aber schon mal den Termin falls ihr gedenkt teilzunehmen! Die Termine bis Ende Jahr: * Di. 20. September 2022, 18:30: OSM-Stammtisch on-site und virtuell, Bitwäscherei Zürich. Unverbindliche Anmeldung und mehr Informationen [2] * Di. 25. Oktober 2022, 19:00: OSM-Stammtisch on-site und virtuell, OST Campus Rapperswil, Raum 6.002 (17:30-19:00: Mini-Mapathon und https://www.geoschoolday.ch/) * Do. 17. November 2022 ab 19:00: 10 Jahre SOSM mit Fondue-Abend, Bitwäscherei Zürich * Fr. 9. Dezember 2022, 18:30: OSM-Stammtisch on-site und virtuell, Bitwäscherei Zürich Es würde mich freuen den einen oder die andere an einem der Events zu sehen! [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen#… Gruss Packi

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OSM-Treffen Zürich/Schweiz bis Ende 2022 on-site/virtuell
by Stefan Keller 09 Sep '22

09 Sep '22

Mappers! Gerne gebe ich hiermit die OSM-Treffen Zürich/Schweiz durch, die bis Ende 2022 nun bekannt sind: 🍻 Di. 20. Sept. Bitwäscherei Zürich 🍻 Di. 25. Okt. OST Campus Rapperswil 🍻 Do. 17. Nov. Fondue/Jubiläum Bitwäscherei Zürich 🍻 Fr. 9. Dez. Bitwäscherei Zürich Immer jeweils 18:30 - bzw. ausnahmsweise 19 Uhr - on-site und die erste Stunde virtuell (ausser natürlich beim Fondue-Essen). Siehe auch https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen -- C'est avec plaisir que je vous communique les rencontres OSM Zurich/Suisse qui sont désormais connues jusqu'à fin 2022: 🍻 Mar. 20 sept. Bitwäscherei Zurich 🍻 Mar. 25 oct. OST Campus Rapperswil 🍻 Jeu. 17 nov. Fondue/anniversaire Bitwäscherei Zurich 🍻 Ve. 9 déc. Bitwäscherei Zürich Toujours à 18h30 - ou exceptionnellement à 19h - sur site et la première heure virtuelle (sauf bien sûr pour la fondue). Voir aussi (page de texte en allemand - mais nous parlons aussi en anglais le cas échéant) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen -- I am pleased to announce herewith the OSM meetings Zurich/Switzerland, which are now known until the end of 2022: 🍻 Tues. Sept. 20 Bitwäscherei Zurich 🍻 Tues. Oct. 25 OST Campus Rapperswil 🍻 Thurs. Nov. 17 Fondue/Jubilee Bitwäscherei Zurich 🍻 Fri. Dec. 9 Bitwäscherei Zurich Always 18:30 - or exceptionally 19 Uhr - on-site and the first hour virtually (except of course at the fondue dinner). See also (German text page - but we may also speak English) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen

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Project of the Month Switzerland (PotM CH) August 2022 - Sitzbänke | Benches | Bancs
by Stefan Keller 09 Sep '22

09 Sep '22

Liebe Mapper Vorab: Morgen Donnerstag ab 18:30 Uhr findet wieder das monatliche OSM-Treffen statt in-person in Zürich sowie virtuell: Ask-us-Anything! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen#… Fast hätte ich es im Sommerferien-Schlaf vergessen: Beim Projekt des Monats Schweiz (PotM CH) August 2022 geht es schlicht um die Erfassung von Sitzbänken in OpenStreetMap (OSM). Als Änderung zählt das Hinzufügen oder Ändern von amenity=bench. Weitere Informationen zu diesem PotM gibt es im Wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Project_of_the_month_Switzerland Hier das Dashboard: https://potm.osm.ch/superset/dashboard/23/ -- en: Dear Mappers, I almost forgot during my summer vacation nap: The project of the month Switzerland (PotM CH) August 2022 is simply about the registration of benches in OpenStreetMap (OSM). Adding or changing amenity=bench counts as a change. More information about this PotM can be found in the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Project_of_the_month_Switzerland Here is the dashboard: https://potm.osm.ch/superset/dashboard/23/ -- fr: Chers mappeurs, chères mappeuses, J'ai failli l'oublier pendant la sieste des vacances d'été: Le Projet du mois en Suisse (PotM CH) d'août 2022 porte simplement sur la saisie de bancs dans OpenStreetMap (OSM). L'ajout ou la modification d'amenity=bench compte comme une modification. De plus amples informations sur ce PotM sont disponibles sur le wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Project_of_the_month_Switzerland Voici le tableau de bord : https://potm.osm.ch/superset/dashboard/23/

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Differences in Municipalities to swissboundaries
by GMUER Daniel 09 Sep '22

09 Sep '22

Hi all. As far as I understand there was an Import of the Municipalityboundaries from swissboundaries at around 2011 [1]. There are also annual "Municipality Mergers" [2] for municipalities that were merged. Is there is also a defined workflow to keep changes on the geometries of the municipalityboundaries (admin_level=8) up to date in openstreetmap? For example, right now there are differences in Lakes like Lago Maggiore, Lago di Lugano and Lac Léman where the boundaries in osm follow the coastline but in swissboundaries the middle of the lakes. There are also other changes e.g. [3] that are not up to date in osm [4]. If there is no such workflow, I assume it is ok to adjust the border manually by following the vertexes of swissboundaries? Thanks for your advice Daniel [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/EN:Switzerland/swissBOUNDARIES3D [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Switzerland/2022_Municipality_Mergers [3] https://www.bern-ost.ch/MuensingenRubigen---Grenzverlauf-bereinigt-602417 [4] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/46.87921/7.54186

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Re: [talk-ch] New Membership Outreach
by Paul Brunner 01 Sep '22

01 Sep '22

Would the Welcome Tool <https://welcome.osm.be> (wiki page here <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_tool>) be helpful in welcoming and orienting new members? Simon, I thought I remembered you saying it was quite a bit of work sending the emails out the current way. (Resending with different subject line.)

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New Membership Outreach
by Christopher Beddow 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

After the FOSS4G conference in Firenze, I realize I met many people who are in Zürich and maybe some other parts of Switzerland but not part of the SOSM community. What is the best way to point people to a welcome resource or give some kind of invite to join discussions? Should we consider any additional channels? Previously I proposed making a Facebook page (not group) which serves as a good way for me to use some advertising credit to promote the page to demographics in Switzerland as an advertisement. But ideally that's not the central place just a pointer toward mailing list and other places. Is there any newsletter that may be more consolidated than the mailing list (could link to top mailing list topics). I am still new but definitely interested to have a good link to send to people to get more involved if they are totally unfamiliar with mailing lists and need a point of entry.

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Re: [talk-ch] talk-ch Digest, Vol 2245, Issue 1
by Paul Brunner 30 Aug '22

30 Aug '22

Would the Welcome Tool <https://welcome.osm.be/> (wiki page here <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_tool>) be helpful in welcoming and orienting new members? Simon, I thought I remembered you saying it was quite a bit of work sending the emails out the current way. On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 11:28, <talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch> wrote: > Send talk-ch mailing list submissions to > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-ch-request(a)openstreetmap.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ch-owner(a)openstreetmap.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk-ch digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New Membership Outreach (Christopher Beddow) > 2. Re: New Membership Outreach (Peter Elderson) > 3. Re: New Membership Outreach (Simon Poole) > 4. Re: New Membership Outreach (Christopher Beddow) > 5. Re: New Membership Outreach (Simon Poole) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 19:02:24 +0200 > From: Christopher Beddow <christopher.beddow(a)gmail.com> > To: "Openstreetmap Schweiz/Suisse/Svizzera/Svizra" > <talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch> > Subject: [talk-ch] New Membership Outreach > Message-ID: > < > CADzfi1Wc3FL55Omd2sh2cB8FbNWVC4X_4DrZwm1D5qfUho9OQA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > After the FOSS4G conference in Firenze, I realize I met many people who are > in Zürich and maybe some other parts of Switzerland but not part of the > SOSM community. > > What is the best way to point people to a welcome resource or give some > kind of invite to join discussions? > > Should we consider any additional channels? > > Previously I proposed making a Facebook page (not group) which serves as a > good way for me to use some advertising credit to promote the page to > demographics in Switzerland as an advertisement. But ideally that's not the > central place just a pointer toward mailing list and other places. > > Is there any newsletter that may be more consolidated than the mailing list > (could link to top mailing list topics). > > I am still new but definitely interested to have a good link to send to > people to get more involved if they are totally unfamiliar with mailing > lists and need a point of entry. >

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SwissTopo relief on Opensnowmap
by yvecai 27 Aug '22

27 Aug '22

J'ai rajouté un layer juste pour nous sur Opensnowmap : https://blog.opensnowmap.org/high-resolution-relief-for-switzerland/ J'espère que aimerez ! Yves

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editor conflict
by Oreg2 25 Aug '22

25 Aug '22

Hi all, I could use your advice how to resolve a conflict with another editor. Three weeks ago I recorded a few GPS traces of hiking paths in the Bergell / Bregaglia valley and used them to create relations for the Via Panoramica (relation 14414965) and the Via Bregaglia (relation 14425116) with a variant via Bondo (relation 14425264), all according to the physical signposts on the ground. When I looked again a couple of weeks later I found that my Via Panoramica had been deleted and my Via Bregaglia changed in a massive changeset (124772603) touching 157 ways, 27 relations and 236 nodes, with no source or explanation. There are two new "Sentiero Panoramico" / "Via Panoramica" relations (14449302 and 14449306), neither of which conforms to my survey trace nor the official Switzerland Mobility map. I'm not sure what has changed in the Via Bregaglia relations. A number of tags have been dropped from all of the above relations, others replaced by, in my view, incorrect ones. (I had actually added another Via Bregaglia relation according to the tourist office website. From this, all but one member were dropped. But that website has multiple contradictory maps and descriptions, so I don't trust it and don't mind too much that this relation was practically deleted.) So I started a discussion of the changeset with its editor: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124772603 I tried not to ask everything at once, so didn't even get to the missing tags, yet. But you can see how the discussion has been going. After two responses the other editor seems to have fallen silent. I'd give him a few more days, though. I do not see any indication how his changes were improvements over my work. What I would like to get to is have my Via Panoramica relation and the dropped tags restored. Ideally, I could convince the other editor to do this but I'm not too optimistic. What do you think? How should I proceed? (Feel free to respond in German if you prefer.) Thanks for any advice, Oreg2

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OSM-Stammtisch Zürich: 11. August
by Patrick Stählin 11 Aug '22

11 Aug '22

Salut! Der nächste OSM-Stammtisch in Zürich findet am nächste Woche am Donnerstag statt. Wir treffen uns in der Bitwäscherei[1], ein Hackerspace in der alten Zürcher Zentralwäscherei. Der Hackerspace ist ein paar Fuss-Minuten vom Bahnhof Hardbrücke entfernt (~300m laut OSRM). Datum: Montag, 11. Juli 2022 Zeit: ab 18:30 Uhr Ort: Bitwäscherei[1], Neue Hard 12, Zürich Weitere Infos und unverbindliche Anmeldung [2]. [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7658441951 [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Switzerland:Z%C3%BCrich/OSM-Treffen#… Gruss Packi

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