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Re: [talk-ch] Association ....
by Simon Poole 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Sarah The French template is here: http://www.kmu.admin.ch/themen/00614/00656/00690/index.html?lang=fr We will have to decide at one point in time on which language version is the official one. Simon Am 05.07.2011 08:23, schrieb Sarah Hoffmann: > Simon, > > do you have an English translation (or French, if that is what you > can get from the KMU portal)? Resp. should somebody else take care of > that? German isn't really well understood further West. And I think it > is really important that we do that together. > > Otherwise, looks good to me. > > Sarah > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:52:59PM +0200, Simon Poole wrote: >> >> Am 02.07.2011 20:06, schrieb Andreas Bürki: >>> Am 02.07.2011 18:28, schrieb Simon Poole: >>>> The wikimedia by-laws are definitely too complicated >>> That's your personal opinion. I don't think so. - General note: The more >>> precise articles of association are, the less discussion and >>> misunderstanding occur. >>> >> The wikimedia bylaws introduce a number of concepts not required by law, >> and restate a lot of things that are -already- completely satisfactory >> defined in law. >> >> If I could wager a bet, I would put my money on that the articles were >> either wrote by a lawyer with anglo-saxon background or to satisfy one. >> >>>> (there are far better examples for example /ch/open >>> Disagree as well on that one. IMHO they should mention registered office >>> and business year, just as simple examples. >> They do state the business year and it is completely legal not to state >> a place of business. If it has no undesirable consequences (I can't >> think of any at the current time) it avoids having to have a general >> assembly and change the bylaws every time the kind soul who does the >> administration moves. >> >> Anyway my proposal is here >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Bylaws_Swiss_OSM_Association_-_Ger… >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ch mailing list >> talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >> http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch > _______________________________________________ > talk-ch mailing list > talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch > http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch

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Re: [talk-ch] Association ....
by Roman Fischer 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

The statute looks good to me. -Roman > Quoting Simon Poole <simon(a)poole.ch>: > >> >> >> Am 02.07.2011 20:06, schrieb Andreas Bürki: >>> >>> Am 02.07.2011 18:28, schrieb Simon Poole: >>>> The wikimedia by-laws are definitely too complicated >>> >>> That's your personal opinion. I don't think so. - General note: The more >>> precise articles of association are, the less discussion and >>> misunderstanding occur. >>> >> The wikimedia bylaws introduce a number of concepts not required by >> law, and restate a lot of things that are -already- completely >> satisfactory defined in law. >> >> If I could wager a bet, I would put my money on that the articles >> were either wrote by a lawyer with anglo-saxon background or to >> satisfy one. >> >>>> (there are far better examples for example /ch/open >>> >>> Disagree as well on that one. IMHO they should mention registered office >>> and business year, just as simple examples. >> They do state the business year and it is completely legal not to >> state a place of business. If it has no undesirable consequences (I >> can't think of any at the current time) it avoids having to have a >> general assembly and change the bylaws every time the kind soul who >> does the administration moves. >> >> Anyway my proposal is here >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Bylaws_Swiss_OSM_Association_-_Ger… >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ch mailing list >> talk-ch(a)openstreetmap.ch >> http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/mailman/listinfo/talk-ch

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Rencontre cartographe amateur
by Frédéric Benninger 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Bonjour, Vus les résultas du doodle: http://doodle.com/ggadr9yagri7qhuc Je propose de retenir la date du 2 juillet. Par contre seulement pour une demi journée étant donné le nombre de participant. Ça serait cool si Stéphane B. Pouvait nous faire une présentation de ses travaux. Salutations Frédéric

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Association & Via Francigena & Question
by inetis - Pierre-André Vullioud 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Hi, Yes, it'll be great to have an "official" voice for OSM in Switzerland. We can use it to contact partners to include data in OSM. Good news, the Via Francigena is completed for the Swiss part have a look at : http://hiking.lonvia.de/fr/relation/124582 more informations : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Via_Romea_Francigena GPX file from Lonvia : http://hiking.lonvia.de/fr/routebrowser/124582/gpx I have a question. I checked the Swiss Via Francigena part with the relation analyzer: http://analyser.openstreetmap.fr/cgi-bin/index.py I had some errors on places and parking. To remove this error, I had to create a way through the place instead of adding the entire place. Exemple : Place de la navigation in Lausanne (I added the grey line) Do you think it's the correct way to do that ? Bonne journée Pierre-André -- ----------------- inetis sàrl Grand-Vigne 7 -- 1302 Vufflens-la-Ville Tél. : +41 21 731 70 88 www.inetis.ch

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2. Mapping Party Rapperswil und 20. OSM-Treffen 9. Juli 2011 (Reminder)
by Stefan Keller 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

Liebe Mapper Dies ist ein 'Reminder' für die 2. Mapping Party und das 20. Zürcher OSM-Treffen am Sa. 9. Juli 2011 ab 15 Uhr an der HSR Hochschule für Technik in Rapperswil, http://bit.ly/mmmiAO . Bitte meldet euch hier http://bit.ly/mmmiAO#Angemeldete_User an (oder schickt mir ein Mail). Das gilt v.a. auch für Ostschweizer Mapper. Wäre doch schade, wenn "nur" Zürcher nach St. Gallen kämen oder es zuwenig Getränke hätte. Bis dann, Stefan Am 16. Juni 2011 02:12 schrieb Stefan Keller <sfkeller(a)gmail.com>: > Am Samstag, 9. Juli 2011, findet an der HSR Hochschule Rapperswil die > >>> 2. Mapping Party und das 20. OSM-Treffen der Gruppe Zürich und Umgebung statt. > > Ab 15 Uhr beginnen wird mit dem Editieren der Gemeindegrenzen. Wer > will kann dann auch Mappen gehen. Ab 18 Uhr wird auf dem Fäschtinseli > grilliert - bitte Grilladen selber mitnehmen, für Getränke ist > gesorgt. > > Weitere Infos und Anmeldung unter http://bit.ly/mmmiAO > > Gruss, > Stefan >

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Via Francigena & Question
by inetis - Pierre-André Vullioud 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

> As with everything in OSM, the answer is: there is not only one correct > way. > There is the one fraction which says that you should not add ways where > there are none in reality. Then there is the other fraction that insists > that routing only works properly if there is such an invisible way. > In practise, routers should be fine if you add the complete place to > a route as long as you make sure that the outgoing ways are connected > to the outline of the place. It might route you along the boundaries > of the place which is still fine. Putting the place in the relation > is certainly no error. > On the other hand, adding this additional way will also not hurt. So, > just leave it as is. It's fine, too. > Personally, I tend to put places entirely into the relation. In parking > lots, I generally add the ways where the cars can drive as > highway=service and use those for the hiking route. Thanks Sarah for your message. I have done ways throw places/parkings mainly for having a clean GPX file for the walkers. I have contacted the FrancigenaLibrari to ask them if we can use the GPX files of the italian part on OSM. It's the official walk route. http://www.francigenalibrari.beniculturali.it/news1_en.html The idea is to use them to complete the relation but not adding ways. I have no answer yet. Bonne journée Pierre-André -- ----------------- inetis sàrl Grand-Vigne 7 – 1302 Vufflens-la-Ville Tél. : +41 21 731 70 88 www.inetis.ch

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Association ....
by inetis - Pierre-André Vullioud 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

Hi Simon, > Why not English? That could be a solution for the start. But after few pages in every national languages will be great. Good start for the status :) Virtual meeting and voting would be a nice way to have more participation. For the web site, I know the developer (a swiss guy) of this tools http://www.joomlapolis.com/cb-solutions/cbsubs It's a full automatic system to manage subscriptions and payment (paypal or postfinance). I can help to put it online. Thanks Pierre-André

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XAPI Switzerland
by Beni Buess 30 Jun '11

30 Jun '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi I've set up a XAPI for Switzerland [1] using JXAPI[2]. Usage is described at [3]. The database does not get updated automatically at the moment, but i'm working on this. The goal is to apply the minutely diffs. I'd really appreciate if some of you could help me testing this and report any problems you have using the XAPI so they can get sorted out and the XAPI would be in a usable state once I managed the minutely update. [1]http://osm.xiala.net:8080/xapi/api/0.6/ [2]http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/iandees/diary/12916 [3]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJN9MsaAAoJEOg6U/nfeJJMsVQP/iPB1IXqnVIeCEyA4zTOzsCP TJ3LZORh9dQ0DPZcTHNwDl4jKbSlEOsJCu2b8XT4YzPwp0ruc+QUXZx20mUlV9dQ aAbgDiIlscoACjTqtUQGIyNyaltkZmYPm9OWl+AdZNAbv8CHdcy6L1DAlMa+icLb 9cV26E8wvPWYZra1gDZ8hY4RiZwIAQJEjZgHvy+Q1XP45zvnnHl7IiSE82q/JnZ7 7S7YR/zRTxZpsRRfzuSyLejYz9WOH7mYAfq+QvAwYWV69YSPamTYcOKlcrIZIn9N LPADM9HIsMYr2PAP3U4VJ4sYT7g2IfXIVrsyduS+SVswsQ7XuCa0nMQIF/j7Gtgp eOp2jLWM09BjzmhfEpHiOQ63ZzWwhFOy4EgEvAcWV145KI8h3xAT4juOxn9VLNWL 0mqepVvtUlBR2WEUdJc1quFD8NUz1pOFQaulJpfxgoIl9b3i7x8cYuehcvFAgd0R g2+UNmEDAIgNFrFnCctQ6X6u+CZux4oxUZU4rLBZ2OyQS6mOGOrsKYYKtmUsDJkk zJF6b4ZFu5NTNL7Wm7a3/m5WGzVYjIdyzpMGuX+ToortpBE+G8ikgJVl+Frv9hf8 GklibtlHqDSE/MNmr3PoiOFofj+cG46Fu3wtOfh+RAvMcPP9r5emYYtY4eWoG8u9 s2qK+dnAiIjVo++ItWvn =N0VM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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current coverage
by Beni Buess 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi I've updated the current_coverage page [1] in the wiki with recent data. What seems intresting to me are the numbers for primary/secondars highways. I've not looked at the two vector datasets, but it seems to me that there is a difference in the classification/tagging. I can't believe that we have just mapped half of all primary roads. Does anybody have an idea on how to examine this further? The railway numbers are probably that high because of the mapping of single railtracks. I still have to come up with a query to calculate the forest/wood area. Any hints? [1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ch:current_coverage Beni -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOCO/qAAoJEOg6U/nfeJJMaZYP/j5gbLLDnwKh0k2qqnmOzCyI wH7250vQm0qlICGFaaIaekgL/hdKjZG1vxjFDph9rO95DghU0S2eaadLZfpw70qU ZZhkOCFGhLfGXfzGg37ETCXn1i+PsHLnxcyvLZ1xpLkqCOnOVZV/7R0fQ8SL3qKE i/4yfM9PEaYKLAxVG7h1njYeeOXVF0cf3+x6h9+vpIZlGwoM55pA4VfVEXxjmuc7 1G7bY3kX1gN1yhDVbpq2WoPcTjDhj9XhJt2ft7YvUXUNMGJ2/WFGOeSOT0/Ca3L9 u6eFC6wywL3bgsMOKQ2Rl9m0T6xN+9hxnVcpHrxyHmZgi32TQRvgAzL2ZdtGrP0O stzFTmMtT10f/b0hxRZ0ENnEcER3iL+bjmZ5XBvVDJymysWf2It7KClyFyRAnPcY t7qclB7QsMcH9c9JEVMxxyYzmsx7JxNgMTNBJt1foORghfhPgD7rtjRBPs9hn81p jnZ25mYxDz/T2m6fj23WmaPD1N/ed+GKxtC9bKiPadOcCjT85ar9BXFqxkv1J00l T+etJNfZh9rasSMYnMILVPewUga2yTiJmoUwedY1ipGNRNPF0oRmd7MQcoRk97WW AjTmYcf0Ti9yGealApIC7wZ7BsnU9pzk0R3GiXccbHuiRDU2XwWSBR1pyBmY5rFL Lm1lsC6cWV6CW2eXLJNd =OgY/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Website redesign
by Marius Rieder 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

Hi all Please have a look at http://new.openstreetmap.ch/ let me know your two cents. Pour mes chers amis de la Romandie. Comment suis-je traduire "News" pour une list avec de date a Rencontre? Marius -- ~o__O Marius Rieder O__o~ |vV| http://www.durchmesser.ch/ |vV| /] | <marius.rieder(a)durchmesser.ch> | [\ ---/|--|\--------[ Dance first. Think later. ]--------/|--|\---

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