[talk-ch] Pls, don't delete sidewalks, visual impaired people might use them

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Thu Aug 24 20:56:19 CEST 2017


The station has some indoor mapping (which uses lvel not layer) which
may however currently be severly broken, see
http://openlevelup.net/?l=0#19/46.94886/7.43989 and 
http://projets.pavie.info/id-indoor/#background=Bing&level=2&map=21.00/7.43977/46.94888

Simon

Am 24.08.2017 um 20:25 schrieb amilopowers at u-cloud.ch:
> I am sorry to use this topic for this. But am I wrong or are
> layers/levels in the train station "Bern" pretty messed up? I think
> someone thought layers from the rail level up and others the other way
> around.
>
> I think there's a lot of craft mapping needed to fix this.
>
>
> Gesendet von ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
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> An 24. Aug. 2017, 20:21, Simon Poole schrieb:
>
>
>     Adding separate footways needs a lot of care to not break things.
>     I did
>     a quick check in Bern and couldn't find any larger deletions of
>     footways, so we need to wait till Andreas gives us a pointer.
>
>     I did see a rather large amount of "original" mapping and tagging
>     that
>     would be a good idea to avoid by everybody contributing in Bern given
>     that it is a high density and important area.
>
>     Simon
>
>
>     Am 24.08.2017 um 19:27 schrieb marc marc:
>     > Hello,
>     >
>     > It is not me :-)
>     > But as talk a few weeks on talk mailing list, create a separate
>     walkway
>     > when in fact it is actually connected to the road breaks the
>     routing.
>     > A routing suggests that you can always cross the road when in
>     reality it
>     > is not always true (barrier, hedge, ...).
>     > Another assumes that you can never cross if there is no path
>     between the
>     > barrier and the road.
>     > For now, IMHO the best solution is to add the tag sidewalk to
>     the road
>     > when the counter is against the road. The kerb tag is then
>     useful for
>     > people with reduced mobility. The geographic precision is less
>     but in
>     > any case the gps regularly have an imprecision as great as the
>     width of
>     > the road.
>     > There is a proposal to improve routing for separate trotters but
>     it is
>     > not completed and no routing to my knowledge uses it
>     >
>     > PS: Look for the example described on talk, you will see funny
>     results.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Marc
>     >
>     > Le 24. 08. 17 à 19:07, Andreas Bürki a écrit :
>     >> Hello
>     >>
>     >> Have noticed, there is a "sidewalk cleaner" under way doing
>     some nasty
>     >> work in Berne.
>     >>
>     >> Please Mr. Cleaner, don't do that. There is a reason for sidewalks
>     >> mapped beside of the street: Visual impaired people, so called
>     blind people.
>     >>
>     >> In a long run, highway:footway and highway:footway +
>     footway:sidewalk
>     >> will serve as basis for a map for visual impaired people.
>     >>
>     >> Thx for your cooperation and understanding.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> cheeers, h.
>     >>
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