[talk-ch] Pls, don't delete sidewalks, visual impaired people might use them

amilopowers at u-cloud.ch amilopowers at u-cloud.ch
Thu Aug 24 20:25:23 CEST 2017

I am sorry to use this topic for this. But am I wrong or are layers/levels in the train station "Bern" pretty messed up? I think someone thought layers from the rail level up and others the other way around.

I think there's a lot of craft mapping needed to fix this.

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An 24. Aug. 2017, 20:21, Simon Poole schrieb:

> Adding separate footways needs a lot of care to not break things. I did
> a quick check in Bern and couldn't find any larger deletions of
> footways, so we need to wait till Andreas gives us a pointer.
> I did see a rather large amount of "original" mapping and tagging that
> would be a good idea to avoid by everybody contributing in Bern given
> that it is a high density and important area.
> Simon
> Am 24.08.2017 um 19:27 schrieb marc marc:
>> Hello,
>> It is not me :-)
>> But as talk a few weeks on talk mailing list, create a separate walkway
>> when in fact it is actually connected to the road breaks the routing.
>> A routing suggests that you can always cross the road when in reality it
>> is not always true (barrier, hedge, ...).
>> Another assumes that you can never cross if there is no path between the
>> barrier and the road.
>> For now, IMHO the best solution is to add the tag sidewalk to the road
>> when the counter is against the road. The kerb tag is then useful for
>> people with reduced mobility. The geographic precision is less but in
>> any case the gps regularly have an imprecision as great as the width of
>> the road.
>> There is a proposal to improve routing for separate trotters but it is
>> not completed and no routing to my knowledge uses it
>> PS: Look for the example described on talk, you will see funny results.
>> Regards,
>> Marc
>> Le 24. 08. 17 à 19:07, Andreas Bürki a écrit :
>>> Hello
>>> Have noticed, there is a "sidewalk cleaner" under way doing some nasty
>>> work in Berne.
>>> Please Mr. Cleaner, don't do that. There is a reason for sidewalks
>>> mapped beside of the street: Visual impaired people, so called blind people.
>>> In a long run, highway:footway and highway:footway + footway:sidewalk
>>> will serve as basis for a map for visual impaired people.
>>> Thx for your cooperation and understanding.
>>> cheeers, h.
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