Hi Beat
On 10.07.2018 10:13, Estermann Beat
wrote:
What we are missing right now in Wikidata is a property to refer to the OSM node ID. I have therefore submitted a property proposal:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#OSM_node_ID
Feel free to add more examples and endorse the proposal. Creation of the property should take about 2 weeks.
I doubt that it's a good idea to create a property for OSM IDs on
Wikidata, as OSM IDs aren't "stable". Editors may (and sometimes do)
assign new IDs even though the real-world object may still be the
same, and previously used IDs might be re-assigned if not currently
in use. (See e.g. the vivid history of Node Nr. 1:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1)
Instead, OpenStreetMap entities (nodes, ways or relations) with a
corresponding Wikidata object should refer to the Q-number (which
AFAIK is stable). Determining the corresponding
OpenStreetMap object(s) for a Wikidata entry would then require
something like an Overpass query, but I can't think of any
alternative way to make this linking sound and future-proof.
And feel free to submit a property proposal for OSM ways if you see a need for it.
Dito.
What I don't like in the OSM data is the fact that the source ("survey") does not have proper references (which survey? publication date?).
This is probably a misunderstanding. The source declaration "survey"
in OpenStreetMap is understood to mean that the editor observed the
represented facts themselves on-the-ground, not that the data stems
from some published survey document or dataset. If the information
stems from an pre-existing dataset, that specific dataset should be
mentioned in the "source" changeset tag.
See the value's explanation at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source#General_sources_commonly_used_by_human_mappers
:
The OSM user was there and saw it
himself/herself. The OSM user may or may not have done any
precision measurement of the location etc. using a device such
as a GPS receiver or a theodolite.
Note that use of the "source" tag
on OpenStreetMap entities (nodes, ways or relations) is considered historic
and (according to the Wiki not officially, but de-facto)
deprecated. The tag should be used on changesets instead.
Occurrences on nodes, ways or relations should not be taken at face
value (they are likely to be outdated or incomplete if the object
has been edited since) and should probably be ignored by OSM data
consumers and/or augmented with the source information of the
complete history of the object.
Regards,
Raphael