Hallo Hikerus

It’s more like a 1:1 copy from a non allowed source (aka copyrights) VS write public data from public knowledge into OSM.

As an example: The maps from SwissTopo have a copyright, that means that how the map is made, the arrangement and how the data is put on has a copyright which cannot be used within OSM.

And the SwissTopo card is not complete public available, so you do not know from where they have their information.

On the other hand, if you go to a public viewable sign, viewable for every person which passes that way, it is public available.

An other example, your ZIP code or the spelling of your village:

• Allowed source for the village name is the shield at the entry of the village.
• Not allowed is Google Maps / Swiss Topo
• Allowed information for the ZIP your knowledge, your last received mail
• Maybe allowed is http://opengeodb.giswiki.org/wiki/OpenGeoDB
• Not allowed may be other protected “collections” of the data.

This means: As soon as some data is collected and aggregated to generate/create some work (even if the single entry is public available), then the collection may be under copyright which is not usable for OSM. It’s not the single entry, it’s the source of the complete collection where you get your single entry.

Regards,

David

From: Hikerus
Sent: 15 May 2018 16:20
To: Openstreetmap Schweiz/Suisse/Svizzera/Svizra
Subject: Re: [talk-ch] User that used SwissTopo maps to add/update data in OSM

Guten Tag, Simon Poole,

am Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 um 16:14 schrieben Sie:

> Am 15.05.2018 um 16:01 schrieb Hikerus:

>> Guten Tag, Raphael Das Gupta,

>>

>> am Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 um 15:41 schrieben Sie:

>>

>>>> I don't understand this thread: How could it be possible to "source data from map.geo.admin.ch and

>>>> use it to update OSM".

>>> Well, by editing OSM with whatever they've learned from looking at the

>>> map(s) at map.geo.admin.ch.

>> Hmm - I don't really understand. I am standing here on a street and I

>> see that a house in front of me isn't on the OSM map.

>>

>> If I see that this house on map.geo.admin.ch I am not allowed

>> to add it - I only allowed to put it not to have a look on

>> geo.admin.ch at before?

>>

>> Well - sounds a little strange to me.

> In this case the contributor was directly using the position information

> from the copyrighted swisstopo maps to determine where to put the peaks,

> which is not different than any other copying. See

> https://www.openstreetmap.org/welcome While, naturally, the fact that

> something exists is not protected, one to one copying from a copyrighted

> source to add the data to OSM is.

So its a little bit more clear: Everything you see (eg. house, street,

river) you can add - but additional data from an other source (eg.

height) isn't allowed.

Ok. But there are still difficulties: My village had the wrong postal

code in OSM map - so I corrected it. But the copyright of postal codes

is by Swiss Post. So I did it wrong - I have to change back to the

wrong one?

Hikerus

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