[talk-ch] Switzerland-specific tagging of schools

James Bell mr.j.bell at gmail.com
Sun Jan 9 15:54:25 CET 2022


Hi, I'm no expert on the school system. Tagging vocational school type
sounds interesting and I guess easier to check on the ground than diploma
type.

Were you thinking using an existing tag and  e.g. amenity=college
/ school=professional_education / amenity=school

and adding something to describe the type of vocation?
E.g. school:studies

Did you aready see
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dschool#school%3Atype
?

Regards, James.


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> Dear list
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> I recently thought about creating a Switzerland-specific tagging scheme
> that would allow to specify the different kinds of school that exist in
> Switzerland. Wikipedia [1] gives a good introduction:  However, it is
> incomplete, as [2] shows (it lists 39 types of educations one can achieve
> in Switzerland). I tried to create a summary and some tagging ideas at [3],
> but got a bit stuck. I encountered several stumbling blocks:
>
> 1. Instead of tagging schools, it might make more sense to tag diplomas
> one can achieve. E.g. at a vocational school (Berufsfachschule, ehemals
> Berufsschule) you can do your diploma (vocational baccalaureate
> ("Berufsmaturität")) _during_ your vocational training or _afterwards_.
>
> 2. The name of a school does not clearly indicate the diploma you will
> achieve: E.g. at [4] (Fachmaturitätsschule FMS) one can achieve a
> "Fachmittelschulausweis" (giving access to PET college (HF)) and later on
> one can achieve a "Fachmaturitätszeugnis" (giving access to university of
> applied science (FH)).
>
> 3. The same type of diploma can be achieved at different schools: Example:
> [5] "Berufsmaturität" can be achieved at "Berufsfachschule",
> "Handelsmittelschule", "Informatikmittelschule".
>
> Are others interested in defining such a Switzerland-specific tagging
> scheme? I can think of several different strategies:
>
> a. Define types of school (e.g. "Berufsfachschule") and their tags
> b. Define types of diplomas (e.g. "Berufsmaturität") and their tags
> c. Group together several schools/diplomas, e.g. based on their ISCED
> level, see [6]
> d. Define tags for only the most important (i.e. frequent) schools
> (preferably in a way that won't hinder more detailed mapping later on)
>
> I'm a bit hesitant too define a catch-all, super-detailed tagging scheme,
> because I fear it will be both hard to map (correctly/completely) and also
> hard to use for data consumers.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Also, is there someone who has a bit of in-depth knowledge of ISCED? E.g.
> regarding the difference between ISCED-P and ISCED-A?
>
> Best regards
>
> Lukas
>
> [1]
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildungssystem_in_der_Schweiz#Schulstufen
> [2]
> http://uis.unesco.org/sites/default/files/documents/iscmap_che_2020.xlsx
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Skorbut
> [4] https://www.edubs.ch/schullaufbahn/fms
> [5]
> https://www.zh.ch/de/bildung/schulen/maturitaetsschule/berufsmaturitaetsschule.html
> [6]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Classification_of_Education
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