[talk-ch] editor conflict

kai.pankrath at gmx.de kai.pankrath at gmx.de
Wed Aug 24 20:10:20 CEST 2022

Dear Oreg2,

I have read through the change set discussion and had a quick look on the change set using https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=124772603. My advice would be to give the author a few more days to respond - it might be that the weekend is better suited to compile an answer, although the author seems to be very active looking at other change sets. I can clearly follow your arguments in the discussion, specifically the claimed source for the changes does not sound very reliable compared to an investigation on the ground. Also changing a cross-border relation and deleting relevant and correct information is just not right. However having a glance at the author's change history and activity overall I do hope you get a better response and willingness to work on this together.


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Von: talk-ch <talk-ch-bounces at openstreetmap.ch> Im Auftrag von Oreg2
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. August 2022 17:17
An: talk-ch at openstreetmap.ch
Betreff: [talk-ch] editor conflict

Hi all,

I could use your advice how to resolve a conflict with another editor.

Three weeks ago I recorded a few GPS traces of hiking paths in the Bergell / Bregaglia valley and used them to create relations for the Via Panoramica (relation 14414965) and the Via Bregaglia (relation 14425116) with a variant via Bondo (relation 14425264), all according to the physical signposts on the ground.

When I looked again a couple of weeks later I found that my Via Panoramica had been deleted and my Via Bregaglia changed in a massive changeset (124772603) touching 157 ways, 27 relations and 236 nodes, with no source or explanation. There are two new "Sentiero Panoramico" / "Via Panoramica" relations (14449302 and 14449306), neither of which conforms to my survey trace nor the official Switzerland Mobility map. 
I'm not sure what has changed in the Via Bregaglia relations. A number of tags have been dropped from all of the above relations, others replaced by, in my view, incorrect ones.

(I had actually added another Via Bregaglia relation according to the tourist office website. From this, all but one member were dropped. But that website has multiple contradictory maps and descriptions, so I don't trust it and don't mind too much that this relation was practically deleted.)

So I started a discussion of the changeset with its editor: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124772603 I tried not to ask everything at once, so didn't even get to the missing tags, yet. But you can see how the discussion has been going. After two responses the other editor seems to have fallen silent. I'd give him a few more days, though.

I do not see any indication how his changes were improvements over my work. What I would like to get to is have my Via Panoramica relation and the dropped tags restored. Ideally, I could convince the other editor to do this but I'm not too optimistic.

What do you think? How should I proceed?
(Feel free to respond in German if you prefer.)

Thanks for any advice,
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