[talk-ch] Mapbox mapping activity [Ticket#2022041410000184]

Hubert Rüttimann hubert at hubertruettimann.ch
Mon Apr 18 22:19:06 CEST 2022


Hoi Zäme

In meinem "Interessebereich" habe ich die Mapboxpendenzen soweit wie 
möglich abgearbeitet.
Es sind einzelne Strasseninseln in Waldgebieten überiggeblieben, welche 
man schlicht vor Ort mal anschauen muss, wo diese nun wirklich an eine 
weitere Strasse angehängt sind.
Ein Paar "idiotische Strassenkreuzungen" sind Autobahnbrücken über 
Strassen.

Danke an Simon, auf dein aufmerksames News-lesen

Viele Grüsse

Hubert

Am 18.04.22 um 15:25 schrieb Andy Townsend:
> On 18/04/2022 14:11, Timeo Gut wrote:
>> For those wondering about examples, the wiki page linked in the 
>> initial e-mail contained a further link to this page 
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapbox_linters_types_description> 
>> which describes in detail the kind of issues Mapbox is planning to fix.
>>
> Also, as mentioned at 
> https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/387#issuecomment-1015316614 , 
> the  json files at 
> https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/407#issue-1204668361 can be 
> unzipped and dropped on a browser pointing at geojson.io .  That way 
> you can see the "actual detected problems" (and see if they really are 
> problems).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>> On 2022-04-17 16:31, Christopher Beddow wrote:
>>> I want to chime in and say I am more than happy to put hours into 
>>> fixing a list of issues if Mapbox can provide them.
>>>
>>> Even if no one is putting the time in to fix them from the community 
>>> (a very far hypothetical situation from what would actually happen), 
>>> Mapbox should publish the list of issues, or at the very least the 
>>> list of categories with some examples.
>>>
>>> If the goal is good map data with minimal errors, then every reason 
>>> to collaborate toward that end, no need to have competing objectives.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 15:39 Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     Andy Townsend from OSM's Data Working Group here. We were cc:ed
>>>     on
>>>     http://lists.openstreetmap.ch/pipermail/talk-ch/2022-April/011470.html
>>>     and I've picked it up because I've been involved with a couple
>>>     of related tickets elsewhere.  Sorry about the out-of thread
>>>     message; I've just joined this list to reply.
>>>
>>>     Mapbox have been creating these "projects" country by country at
>>>     https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues and what's happened in
>>>     each country has been broadly similar:
>>>
>>>       * Mapbox say that they will "resolve some issues" in that
>>>         country, but don't say what they will fix or how they
>>>         detected them.
>>>       * The community in that country asks questions and gets only
>>>         vague handwavy answers (e.g.
>>>         https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2022-April/003016.html
>>>         ).
>>>       * The DWG then gets complaints about poor editing in that
>>>         country and has to try and deal with the mappers concerned
>>>         (see e.g.
>>>         https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/del_account/blocks ).
>>>       * The local community and/or the DWG then has to go through a
>>>         "bucket and shovel" exercise to tidy up.
>>>
>>>     It makes no sense for Mapbox to take this approach in every
>>>     country - it just creates extra work for everyone.
>>>
>>>     A much better approach would be what (eventually, after much
>>>     badgering by the local community) happened in the UK.  At
>>>     https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/387#issuecomment-1015316614
>>>     Mapbox published their list of "detected problems". What then
>>>     happened in the UK was that the local communityfixed a large
>>>     number of the issues (where there were genuine issues), and
>>>     Mapbox's "mappers" didn't need to do anything - something of a
>>>     win/win for everyone.  I suspect that the Swiss OSM community is
>>>     even better qualified than the UK one for that approach to work
>>>     here too.
>>>
>>>     Looking outside of Switzerland, I'm now worried about where
>>>     there hasn't been feedback on issues at
>>>     https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/ , but that's offitopic
>>>     for this list.
>>>
>>>     Best Regards,
>>>
>>>     Andy (from the DWG)
>>>
>>>     (resending; original mail seems to have gone astray)
>>>
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Hubert Rüttimann
Robert-Durrer-Strasse 18
6370 Stans

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