[talk-ch] Draft changes for the hiking network wiki page

Yves ycai at mailbox.org
Sun Sep 19 22:23:19 CEST 2021


Une relation de 160 membres pour collectionner les chemins d'une même commune ? Cela ne va pas faire que des heureux.... Pourquoi pas un tag operator= ou maintained_by= ou autre ?

A 160 members relation collecting de trails on a same village ? Some may disagree... Why not an operator= or maintened_by= tag or else?

Yves 

Le 19 septembre 2021 21:59:24 GMT+02:00, "Raphaël Terrettaz" <r.terrettaz at gmail.com> a écrit :
>*English text below (Google translate)*
>
>Bonjour,
>
>Merci pour cette proposition ! Je carthographie le réseau pédestre depuis
>plusieurs années et je suis convaicu de l'intérêt d'avoir ces données dans
>OpenStreetMap !
>
>Dans ma région j'ai carthographié les chemins pédestres d'une autre façon
>encore. Comme je sais que les chemins sont entretenus par les communes,
>j'ai créé une relation par commune. Cette relation regroupe tous les
>chemins de cette commune, ceci afin de ne pas avoir trop de relations, ou
>des chemins qui sont dans plusieurs relations.
>
>Par exemple pour la commune d'Orsières :
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1067491
>
>Ou celle de Sembrancher :
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1589286
>
>J'espère que ce commentaire pourra vous être utile !
>
>Meilleures salutations
>Raphaël Terrettaz
>
>-----------
>
>Hello,
>
>Thank you for this proposal! I have been mapping the hiking network for
>several years and I am convinced of the interest of having this data in
>OpenStreetMap!
>
>In my region I have mapped the hiking trails in another way. As I know that
>the paths are maintained by the municipalities, I created a relationship
>per municipality. This relation regroups all the paths of this
>municipality, in order to have a reduced number of relations, or paths in
>several relations.
>
>For example for Orsières:
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1067491
>
>Or for Sembrancher:
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1589286
>
>Hope this comment can be useful to you!
>
>Best regards
>Raphaël Terrettaz
>
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>Le dim. 19 sept. 2021 à 15:02, René Buffat <buffat at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Dear All
>>
>>
>> Since after the online meeting a while ago I tried to formulate a draft
>> based on the discussions on the mailing list / the meeting. Due to lack of
>> time and energy, this took unfortunately a lot longer than I initially
>> thought.
>>
>>
>> The current draft can be found here
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RIn4vOpPggEzJOv9AMl1egxzeMLpkgxF0q8nWuFhUaE/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, I can't send the PDF version (for people that do not want
>> to access a google server) to the mailing list, as it is too big. But I'm
>> open to suggestions for alternatives.
>>
>>
>> If you like, please create comments directly in the document or reply to
>> this email when you have feedback. The idea would be to collect all
>> discussion points at the bottom of the document and mark the discussed
>> parts of the document with comments.
>>
>>
>> When writing the draft, I had the following thoughts:
>>
>>    -  It would be could to include some background information about the
>>    Swiss hiking network as this could give some context for the rest of the
>>    document and might facilitate discussions about the topic.
>>    - There are different opinions on what level of detail the hiking
>>    network should be mapped. It is thus important to clearly state a minimal
>>    goal but also allow some flexibility.
>>    - Changes to the wiki page should not contradict existing mapped
>>    relations, except there are good reasons for it (such as e.g. the issue
>>    with using name tags for relations that clash with nominatim)
>>    - Figures are sometimes better to explain things than text.
>>    - For some regions, open datasets exist that contain the hiking
>>    network but no information about guideposts. These datasets should be
>>    usable.
>>
>>
>> lg rene
>>
>>
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